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Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:34 pm to
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didn't need to be reminded that Covid happened in 2020
Bravo Sierra. You were blaming Trump for how things ended. Plain and simple. When the truth is that without Covid at the end of 2020 things would have been as good or BETTER than they were at the end of 2019.

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There's a 90% chance I'm more conservative than you.
I'd argue that there is precisely ZERO percent chance of that.

In the end, you're gonna keep paying. I'm gonna sit on my 109 acre farm, do the things I enjoy, pay ZERO taxes, eat well and spend that SS money your going to be FORCED to pay in. Enjoy, I will.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:35 pm to
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steal money from me to pay your lazy arse
I'm gonna ENJOY spending your SS money, while I sit on my 109 acre farm. Think about that! Ha ha
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:37 pm to
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I've stated that SS needs to end.
So You want to frick all of those that came before you so you get/keep yours. Hypocrite much?
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:39 pm to
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I'm gonna ENJOY spending your SS money, while I sit on my 109 acre farm. Think about that! Ha ha


"Frick the res' o' y'all, long 's Ah git mine!"

And I'm going to laugh my arse off when the government confiscates that property and converts it into a solar farm after you die because you won't have enough to pay the estate taxes on it
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21944 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:39 pm to
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Bravo Sierra. You were blaming Trump for how things ended. Plain and simple. When the truth is that without Covid at the end of 2020 things would have been as good or BETTER than they were at the end of 2019.

Why wouldn't I blame Trump for how things ended?

This is the soft part of your "conservatism" - you don't hold Trump accountable for taking the knee on Covid when the Left told him to.

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I'd argue that there is precisely ZERO percent chance of that.

You can never know from posts on a message board, so there's that. But you clearly post from a place further left than I post.

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and spend that SS money your going to be FORCED to pay in. Enjoy, I will.

I'm older than you, dumbass.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:04 pm to
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But you clearly post from a place further left than I post.
Really? Just because I'm not a desanctimonious soy boi doesn't mean I'm left of you.

Look at it this way. Let's say you are building a house and work on it for a period of time. And you do a great job. Then one day a storm comes thru and by no fault of your own does great damage to your house. After the storm it looks like a dung heap. Is it your fault that the home looks that way or the storms? Does how the home looks after the storm lessen the great work you did?
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:07 pm to
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after you die because you won't have enough to pay the estate taxes on i
Why would I have to pay estate taxes on something AFTER I die? I'll be friggin' DEAD. And you pretend to be smart??? If you think solar is going to do ANYTHING other than make democrats who sell the panels rich, you are a buffoon. Bet you probably drive an electric (aka coal powered) car.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 4:09 pm
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:13 pm to
This thread has been a great way to spend the afternoon.

Tl;dr

Knartfocker and SFP are at the extreme right end of the economic spectrum based on their posts in the thread. This clown with an Alabama logo thinks he's a conservative because he voted for Trump, and has spent 14 pages arguing against conservative economic policies and for liberal policies, all while calling anyone who disagrees with him a libtard. What a time to be alive.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21944 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:18 pm to
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Really? Just because I'm not a desanctimonious soy boi doesn't mean I'm left of you.

I didn't say anything about DeSantis.

You're to the left of me based on your position on entitlement programs. Also, your apparent allegiance to Trump. He's not the most conservative dog in the hunt, and he's also a practiced establishment POTUS.

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Look at it this way. Let's say you are building a house and work on it for a period of time. And you do a great job. Then one day a storm comes thru and by no fault of your own does great damage to your house. After the storm it looks like a dung heap. Is it your fault that the home looks that way or the storms? Does how the home looks after the storm lessen the great work you did?


Let's modify your hypothetical so it's more consistent with what happened in 2020.

If I was fooled into thinking this massive storm was coming when it really wasn't, and rather than accept the damage I was promised it would cause, I simply torched my own work/my own making - then yes, it's on me.
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:31 pm to
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Why would I have to pay estate taxes on something AFTER I die? I'll be friggin' DEAD. 


Holy shite

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And you pretend to be smart???


Let's compare ASVAB scores.

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If you think solar is going to do ANYTHING other than make democrats who sell the panels rich, you are a buffoon


Irony is truly lost on you...

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Bet you probably drive an electric (aka coal powered) car.


My truck nuts are bigger than yours.


I think I've got you figured out somewhat. You said you were born in 66 and did 11.5 years in the military, used your GI bill to go to college, and now live on 109 acres somewhere in Texas. You're not even 60, yet are throwing an absolute tantrum over a few anons on a message board saying that SS should end. The only reason for this is if you're absolutely dependent on SS in the next few years or you're already getting some sort of disability payments that are tied in with SS.

So you joined the military straight out of high school. But 11.5 years of service is odd. Either you were too stupid to make rank or you were medically discharged. Given your current situation, I will assume the latter. Since it's a medical discharge, I'm sure you took full advantage of maximizing your disability benefits with the VA, probably so much so that you got enough to qualify for full disability. Then you went to college and got your degree.

Now with a college degree and super minority protection as a DV, you got a cushy government contracting job. Probably unionized.

You've been sucking the government teat your whole adult life while LARPing as some hardcore patriot. And you sit here trying to lecture us about how you're more important than others because you "worked more". You're a leech.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32511 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 5:07 pm to
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I can guarantee you, that when their turn comes around and, they apply for SS/MC they will smile and cash those checks.


I'll cash the checks knowing that I got screwed over a 40 year period.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 6:24 pm to
Somebody got triggered.

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Holy shite
Holy shite is right. You said that I wouldn't have enough to pay the estate taxes on my property AFTER I die, right? My heirs might have to pay it, but I won't. See how that works. How much do you think 109 acres and a 2000sq ft brick ranch with a 2 car garage is worth? This is pasture/woodlands. Around here, it goes for about 8K an acre and the cost to build a house is roughly $175 a square foot. That comes to 872K for the land an 350K for the house or $1.22 Million. Now I have roughly 250K in tractors and equipment. All totaled that is $1.5 million. According to the "great google", "In 2023, the federal estate tax ranges from rates of 18% to 40% and generally only applies to assets over $12.92 million." Considerably more than what my farm is worth. Something tells me we'll be good. Aren't you supposed to be smart? Cant you multiply or google? Geez.

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Let's compare ASVAB scores.
Ok. 1984 was a long time ago. Best I recall, they were all in the 90+ percent. Anyway they were good enough to get me a commications/navigations technician position (328X1) in the USAF working "non-integrated" aircraft. Before you call me a racist, "non-integrated" doesn't mean we didn't let black people in. It means that the aircraft did not have a central computer to "integrate" all of the systems together. I worked TACAN, UHF and VHF radios, IFF systems, Mode IV, Instrument landing systems, etc on A-10, C-130 and T-38. Tech school was 9 months at Keesler AFB MS.
After separating I was a few classes from a Bachelors in Applied Mathematics. Finished that degree and still had 20K or so in the GI bill. Used the remaining amount to get an informations technology degree right before the 10 years after separation was up. Then my company paid for a Masters in Network Security.

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My truck nuts are bigger than yours.
Only nuts you could beat me in would be nuts on the chin. Imagine you have had many of those, while I have had none.

I never mentioned Texas as where I live, because I don't live there. I do have relatives (step daughter) that lives in Lubbock and my wife grew up there. Like most Texas women, she's absolutely gorgeous. I wasn't throwing a tantrum, I was arguing with you and you didn't like it. Then you had to throw a tantrum with the post I'm replying to.

The last part of your post was just OOZING with jealousy and envy. While I could probably get disability, I do not. While in the AF I had torn cartilage in my knee scoped, ruptured an appendix and had a section of my small intestine removed because of recurring "Small Bowel Obstruction". The knee wasn't injured in the military, it was injured in high school football and I lied when joining. The AF was not responsible for the appendix, more likely it was all the bar fines and short times in the Philippines. If you don't know what they are, look it up. The small bowel obstruction was caused by the scar tissue due to the burst appendix, again not caused by the AF. I did not apply for these benefits because I do not feel that I "paid in" to receive them. I don't mean pay in dollars. I mean pay in limbs, eyes, hearing, skin from burns, etc. That is what I feel disability is for and I have none of them. The money they would give me is better served going to someone who actually "paid" the price that I did not. We do agree on one thing, there are too many people who don't deserve disability taking advantage of the VA system. I have been VERY blessed in my life.

Something tells me you are mid-management type that can't afford to pay attention. You wife (if still married) looks at you with disgust. Then after you leave for work, she goes to a real man to get the satisfaction you cannot provide.

In the end, you will keep paying SS and I will be collecting it in a few years. Enjoy paying me, cause I'll enjoy spending your money.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 6:47 pm
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 6:37 pm to
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I didn't say anything about DeSantis.
Then you deny being a desanctimonious soy boi?

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He's not the most conservative dog in the hunt, and he's also a practiced establishment POTUS.
I highly doubt that ANY politician will ever match all of my beliefs, unless I am that politician. IF desanctimonious gets the nomination, I'll still vote for him. Just think that Trump is better. But then, he's more in your face like I am. Maybe that's why I like him more.

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If I was fooled into thinking this massive storm was coming when it really wasn't, and rather than accept the damage I was promised it would cause, I simply torched my own work/my own making - then yes, it's on me.
Except that's not what happened. In beginning Trump said that we need to protect the old/vulnerable and let everyone else get it and get over it for herd immunity. And history has shown that he was right about that. Then the so called "experts" working with the media and democrats (yes I repeat myself) came up with all this crazy stuff about shutting down the economy (2 weeks to slow the spread) to try and get him out of office.
Using your "modified hypothetical" who would you listen to about the storm the "experts" (aka weather folks). Would you heed those experts warnings or ignore them?

How did he torch his work? I'm pretty sure the individual states did the shutdowns, I don't think the President has the constitutional authority to force states to shut/lock down. Certainly didn't have the authority to force schools to open back up or states to stop the lockdowns. When he tried to get the blue states to open back up, they refused because they wanted to hurt the economy as much as possible and get mail in voting in place.. Trying to defeat him in the election.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:38 pm to
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I'll cash the checks knowing that I got screwed over a 40 year period
Welcome to the club.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71367 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:40 pm to
How is he doing with Dems?
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:41 pm to
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arguing against conservative economic policies and for liberal policies
Not at all. I'm fine with cutting, just cut the freeloaders and illegal criminal invaders BEFORE cutting the working man/woman.

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calling anyone who disagrees with him a libtard
No. I was calling the pompous, pretentious, condescending little arseholes libtards, because that is what they act like.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74509 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:46 pm to
Survey finds Hillary Clinton has ‘more than 99% chance’ of winning election over Donald Trump
The Princeton Election Consortium found Ms Clinton has a projected 312 electoral votes across the country and only 270 are needed to win

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21944 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:07 pm to
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Then you deny being a desanctimonious soy boi?

You are retarded.

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Except that's not what happened. In beginning Trump said that we need to protect the old/vulnerable and let everyone else get it and get over it for herd immunity. And history has shown that he was right about that.

I've argued this before - Trump had the right intuition about what was happening, but ended up being too weak to stick with what his gut was telling him. Yes, he said the right things in the very beginning, but ended up going full retard.

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Using your "modified hypothetical" who would you listen to about the storm the "experts" (aka weather folks). Would you heed those experts warnings or ignore them?

Well, if these "weather folks" had just got done impeaching me twice for ridiculous reasons, lied for years about me not denouncing white supremacy, were in the throes of investigating me on about 5 fronts for inane/made up reasons, etc., etc., etc. - there could be a funnel cloud hovering above my house and I would have independently verified what the "weather folks" were suggesting before giving a single shite about it.

Seriously, every conservative with an IQ above room temp should have known in real time to be skeptical AF about everything being hyped about Covid.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:27 pm to
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tivey6301


I'm glad I got to out a MAGA LARPing leftist like you today.

I hear Franzia pairs nicely with government cheese
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12588 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:54 pm to
Lol
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