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re: Minority Voting If Rand Paul wins the GOP nomination in 2016
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
I can only speak for myself, but based on that neocon speech Hillary gave yesterday, if the election were held today, and Rand and Hillary were the nominees, Rand would have this Black man's vote. I've never forgotten how she and Bill campaigned against Obama in 2008, and it's ironic that McCain, the Republican, ran a much more honorable campaign than Hillary did. Screw her.
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:12 pm to FightinTigersDammit
i used to be able to speak english, french, and spanish pretty fluently (and i was fluent in writing them all)
now it's just english when i'm sober and not on caffeine
now it's just english when i'm sober and not on caffeine
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:14 pm to trackfan
hillary's campaign against Obama should be used against her, but i doubt it will be heard
that's not ironic, for a number of reasons
1. she's a DEM
2. she's a Clinton
dirty campaigns are to be expected
quote:
and it's ironic that McCain, the Republican, ran a much more honorable campaign than Hillary did.
that's not ironic, for a number of reasons
1. she's a DEM
2. she's a Clinton
dirty campaigns are to be expected
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:15 pm to Joshjrn
quote:
I'm not willing to concede that blacks would never vote for Rand, but even if I did for the sake of argument, the outreach isn't worthless. Thinking it is overlooks the fact that voting for him isn't the only way to help Rand. If he can make someone ambivalent about him so that they just stay home instead of voting for his opponent, that's a win.
This is true. If Rand can make Blacks feel ambivalent about the election, it will depress the Black vote, and if he matches Chris Christie's performance (23%) among those that do vote, it will be a huge win for him.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:19 pm to trackfan
i will bet you a shite ton that the GOP nominee doesn't touch 23% of black votes
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ex-race driver Emerson Fittipaldi could speak five languages, and said Italian was his favorite (he was a Brazilian). He also said the best language for cursing, by far, was English. 
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:21 pm to CptBengal
quote:Call it what you want, it's not an answer for the millions that are here. There's no solution in your response for what to do with those individuals, or how the GOP can not inevitably end up getting fricked by them.
we ALREADY HAVE a path to citizenship.
quote:Conservatives don't engage in the same thing, or you don't acknowledge it?
Jesus Christ, the way you people are controlled by the focus group tested messages is pathetic.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Obama has been just as much of a shite show in the eyes of true liberals as anyone else. He has largely sold out the ideology.
I agree with this. On drone strikes, Guantanimo Bay, domestic spying, Mideast peace, etc., Obama has sold out liberals. His reaching out to Iran is the only instance that I can think of that I finally felt like he was behaving like he promised.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:23 pm to FightinTigersDammit
portuguese and italian are very similar in their diction, imho...much different and less idiosyncratic than french/spanish
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:24 pm to trackfan
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I agree with this. On drone strikes, Guantanimo Bay, domestic spying, Mideast peace, etc., Obama has sold out liberals. His reaching out to Iran is the only instance that I can think of that I finally felt like he was behaving like he promised.
Obama will be a symbolic "government program"
government programs never fail, they either
1. didn't have enough money spent on them; or
2. weren't implemented correctly
both excuses will be used to defend Obama
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
It would be nice if the Republicans could stay the course in one position and stop flip flopping all the time, at least we know where the democrats stand!, firmly in the left.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:27 pm to volforever
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and stop flip flopping all the time, at least we know where the democrats stand!, firmly in the left.
have you missed the Obama admin?
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
hillary's campaign against Obama should be used against her, but i doubt it will be heard
Shouldn't Rand remind Black folks that he's the one who called out Ted Nugent for disparaging Obama and has never dabbled birtherism rumors while Hillary is the one who spread Muslim rumors and used Jeremiah Wright to attack him? That's certainly not the DNC's responsibility.
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
have you missed the Obama admin?
no I have not, he has always been to the left of the spectrum, he did try to play coy in some issues, but he eventually went full left (internationalist, commie one worlder)
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:33 pm to trackfan
quote:
Shouldn't Rand remind Black folks that he's the one who called out Ted Nugent for disparaging Obama and has never dabbled birtherism rumors while Hillary is the one who spread Muslim rumors and used Jeremiah Wright to attack him? That's certainly not the DNC's responsibility.
he should, and probably will, but that doesn't mean people will listen
*ETA: speaking of Wright, that's a perfect example of people willingly not listening
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:34 pm to trackfan
quote:
I can only speak for myself, but based on that neocon speech Hillary gave yesterday, if the election were held today, and Rand and Hillary were the nominees, Rand would have this Black man's vote.
That statement comes across as pretty damn disingenuous when you posted the following a month ago (Feb. 22nd):
"If Rand Paul were to run against Hillary, Hillary's hawkish foreign policy would force me to vote for Paul. I hate neocons regardless of whether they have an R behind their name or a D."
So yesterday's speech ISN'T what your Rand over Hillary decision is based upon, right?
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:38 pm to NHTIGER
wait
what?
what?
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:39 pm to SDVTiger
quote:I like Latina bush.
Latin bush
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:39 pm to La Place Mike
wait
what?
what?
Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
*ETA: speaking of Wright, that's a perfect example of people willingly not listening
Please elaborate.
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