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re: Michelle Obama's stupid lunch regulations getting tossed by TRUMP next week!
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:12 am to montanagator
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:12 am to montanagator
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Shocker that the South leads the nation in Obesity. But I guess this is where Trump does minor shite to make himself feel better after getting bitch slapped yet again on Health Care.
Yea these regulations are real helpful when the kids don't eat at school because the food sucks and go straight home and fill up on junk food or stop by McDonalds once school lets out. Good intentions but bad results.
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:16 am to FlagLake
My school didn't even deep fry stuff and I was a student from 78-90. There were foods that were shoved in the oven that were prepared foods that were oven fried I suppose like corndogs, steak fingers etc but as far as having a fryer in the kitchen I don't ever remember seeing that. I'd hate the thought of having to fry anything for a hundred(s) of people at the same time. 
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:38 am to Clames
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A properly deep fried turkey is invariably less greasy than an oven roasted one. Same goes for chicken and vegetables.
You're saying deep fried vegetables are healthier than roasted veg?! That's the type of thinking which causes the south to lead the US in obesity.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:40 am to dcbl
Too bad. That was one of the few things coming out of the Obama Administration that I agreed with.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:51 pm to FlagLake
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Yea these regulations are real helpful when the kids don't eat at school because the food sucks and go straight home and fill up on junk food or stop by McDonalds once school lets out. Good intentions but bad results.
I had to start packing my kids' lunches due to them hating just about everything offered. I went to school and eat with them several times and the things they served were definitely run through the de-flavorizer. Just a little salt here and there would have done wonders.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:53 pm to piggilicious
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I'd hate the thought of having to fry anything for a hundred(s) of people at the same time.
It's really not that bad.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:13 pm to FlagLake
quote:Still doesn't mean that they should be contributing to the problem.
Yea these regulations are real helpful when the kids don't eat at school because the food sucks and go straight home and fill up on junk food or stop by McDonalds once school lets out. Good intentions but bad results.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:15 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Carbohydrates are the biggest contributor to obesity and other health issues like cancer and deep fried foods are loaded with carbs.
this is the nutritional label of a can of crisco
show me the carbs.
fat has no carbs and can add not a single when used in cooking, whether frying or sauteing.
it would depend on what you're deep frying french fries? yes potatoes have carbs. chicken? no chicken doesn't have carbs not a single one. because of this a breaded chicken strip is super healthy. 3 of them have 180 calories, 10 net carbs and 15 grams of protein.
if fried properly in oil that is hot enough they will absorb very little of the oil they are cooked in and that oil adds zero carbs.
when they make something low fat, they make it high carb.
kraft low fat ranch dressing 7 carbs per serving, kraft regular ranch dressing 2 carbs per serving.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:17 pm to hogminer
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I had to start packing my kids' lunches due to them hating just about everything offered. I went to school and eat with them several times and the things they served were definitely run through the de-flavorizer. Just a little salt here and there would have done wonders.
Frankly, those kinds of issues were because of the SCHOOL not the policy. It absolutely is possible to provide healthy meals that the kids will eat.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:32 pm to tedmarkuson
quote:Typically you have to bread proteins before you fry them, unless they are naked chicken wings. A lunch of 3 chicken fingers and french fries are going to net you well over 6Og of carbs. That is more carbs than you need for a day. Add in breakfast with a sugary cereal and dinner similar to lunch and you are pushing close to 200 carbs with just three meals and not adding in snacks. This in itself is not "bad" because kids generally need about 200-300 when active, but not all kids are. These eating habits continue well on into adulthood when your metabolism slows and those carbs start adding more weight and ultimately leading to serious health problems like cancer and diabetes.
show me the carbs.
fat has no carbs and can add not a single when used in cooking, whether frying or sauteing.
it would depend on what you're deep frying french fries? yes potatoes have carbs. chicken? no chicken doesn't have carbs not a single one. because of this a breaded chicken strip is super healthy. 3 of them have 180 calories, 10 net carbs and 15 grams of protein.
if fried properly in oil that is hot enough they will absorb very little of the oil they are cooked in and that oil adds zero carbs.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:47 pm to MontyFranklyn
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and french fries are going to net you well over 6Og of carbs.
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a breaded chicken strip is super healthy. 3 of them have 180 calories, 10 net carbs and 15 grams of protein.
then skip the fries!, i haven't ordered french fries in 30 years, and they have carbs not because they were fried but because potatoes are very high in carbs. also typically a commercial breading mix will have added protein. typically soy to help it adhere to the protein being breaded.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:50 pm to rsbd
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Wipe away the Obama presidency like the greasy smear on history it is..
If they can make the holocaust and civil war disappear like it never happened, why not make his presidency disappear as well.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:52 pm to tedmarkuson
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tedmarkuson
Come on man, are you seriously arguing that fried foods aren't unhealthy?
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:54 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Come on man, are you seriously arguing that fried foods aren't unhealthy?
I thought he was at first, but I think he's more arguing fried foods(at least chicken) don't make you fat. He's not completely wrong, just being misleading.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:59 pm to The Spleen
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I thought he was at first, but I think he's more arguing fried foods(at least chicken) don't make you fat. He's not completely wrong, just being misleading.
If he's arguing that a consistend diet of fat foods, particularly when combined with little to no exercise , won't make you fat, he's most certainly wrong.
Now me, I LOVE fried foods, but I limit myself to four times a month (this includes things like bacon) and I either run or swim 5 miles every morning. Obviously the vast majority of fat asses are not skimping on fried foods.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:09 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Come on man, are you seriously arguing that fried foods aren't unhealthy?
read em and weep boy's
This week’s revelation that the advice we’ve been peddled since the 1970s - that to prevent heart disease we should all follow a diet low in saturated fat - was not based on solid scientific evidence and should never have been introduced, is hardly a surprise. A new report suggests that the original study was too simplistic and based on a “small number of unhealthy men”.
So what exactly should we eat? Of late, there has certainly been a shift back to fats, with coconut oil and “real” butter soaring in popularity along with the Paleo movement. And increasingly sugar is being recognised as the real enemy.
LINK
it's sugar and carbs that are the problem not fat.
great example low fat ranch dressing 7 carbs per serving regular ranch dressing 2 garbs per serving. now all mayonnaise based dressing start with a basic emulsion of egg and oil, both of which have fat to make something low fat they have to replace that basic emulsion with starch or gum based stabilizers both of which add carbs.
is it any wonder that as the government's official nutritional policy has been low fat the nation has gotten fatter. frying the food doesn't matter if it's done properly than say baking it.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:14 pm to dcbl
School lunch portions aren't much bigger than prison meals.
Assure you they weren't causing obesity. That program wasn't anything more than virtue signaling
Assure you they weren't causing obesity. That program wasn't anything more than virtue signaling
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:17 pm to dcbl
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Schools in Alabama used to serve FRIED CHICKEN, but deep fryers were outlawed because of Michelle Obama. Talk about overreach...
and you want to know why this country's kids are obese...
Shame on you for being pissed off at Michelle Obama for making cafeterias healthy.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:18 pm to tedmarkuson
I get what you are saying and I do agree so a certain point. Frying as a method isn't any less healthy than baking. My argument is when you fry a protein or veggie you typically add carbs through breading. Also, too much oil from frying has an adverse effect on the body
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Eating fried foods tied to increased risk of diabetes, heart disease. People who eat a lot of fried foods may have a higher risk of type 2 diabetes and heart disease, according to a large, long-term study.
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Eating fried foods away from home—where frying oil may not be fresh—posed the greatest risk, Cahill said. With each reuse, oil becomes more degraded, and more gets absorbed into food, which can contribute to weight gain, higher cholesterol, and higher blood pressure—all risk factors for type 2 diabetes and heart disease.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:36 pm to tedmarkuson
You're advocating a ketogenic diet. I'm familiar with low carb high fat diets. The fats the recommend are "good fats". If you're getting fried foods from a restaurant or a school they aren't using "good fats" they are using processed fats. Fats that are not good for. Where as baking a piece of chicken or vegetables you will put a small amount of olive oil (good fat) as a lubricant.
I agree, sugar is the real problem. But all fats are not good to consume. And typically those "bad fats" are used to fry foods.
I agree, sugar is the real problem. But all fats are not good to consume. And typically those "bad fats" are used to fry foods.
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