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re: Mexican cartels have partnered w Iranian terror groups to exploit the US southern border

Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:55 am to
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8567 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:55 am to
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Why would Mexican cartels partner with Islamic terrorists?


Cause Cartels have tunnels to smuggle large packages across the border.. Like maybe... Dirty bombs?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295145 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:56 am to
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may be willing as you were responding.


My grandkids are already adept with my ARs.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5236 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:56 am to
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Cause Cartels have tunnels to smuggle large packages across the border.. Like maybe... Dirty bombs?


Why would cartels want dirty bombs in here? They want to kill their customers?
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16629 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:57 am to
Shoot first all I can say. And I will
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45195 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:57 am to
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I just don’t think the cartels are helping them

Cartels are all about money.
They don’t care if it comes from Hezbollah.
I just don’t think any mental gymnastics are needed to connect these particular dots.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:58 am to
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You really think some cartel guy in Nueva Rosita in Coahuila is going to be some linguistics expert able to spot the exact location and baseline for comparison between the dialect he is hearing versus what he believes it should be?


Compared to an guy with around an 85-IQ who is a native Arab speaker and learned Spanish late in life? Yeah.

When you speak to a person who grew up speaking Spanish and learned English later in life, I bet you can tell English isn't his first language. You don't need to know where in Mexico or Central America he's from, from the accent.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45195 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:58 am to
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My grandkids are already adept with my ARs.

Well done, Grandpa.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15248 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:58 am to
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Why would cartels want dirty bombs in here? They want to kill their customers?



So it isn't plausible that a ME terrorist organization could offer pure product for access to tunnels and not 1 cartel would accept?

It is 100% plausible and it only takes 1.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:59 am to
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Well they have been doing it for years and nothing

List me all the terror attacks undertaken from this coordinated effort.

quote:

Well that still wasnt the US military


Go look up all the gringos there at Escobar's death. Those guys weren't Colombian
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295145 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:59 am to
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They want to kill their customers?


Its happening already with Fentanyl from China, coming through the border.

The untold story is the number of Chinese coming through.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103106 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:00 am to
“Pure product”?

Given the part of the world the terrorists are coming from, the “pure product” would be an opiate such as heroin.

The problem with this is that fentanyl has flooded the market so badly that hits of fentanyl are dirt cheap and it probably isn’t worth it to get pure heroin then cut it to distribute it.


I would feel differently if this were South America pushing high grade coke or something else which has large demand under any circumstances.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39442 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:01 am to
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Over 100 million armed civilians - I like our chances!!


Normally I would agree, but our current regime would probably arrest any white male that protected his family.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:01 am to
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So it isn't plausible that a ME terrorist organization could offer pure product

You talking dates or camels?

If you're talking heroin, that's not from the Middle East and is from an entirely different area and ethnicity.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295145 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:02 am to
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Cartels are all about money.
They don’t care if it comes from Hezbollah.

They don;t

They're already involved in "human trafficking" (for some reason, controversial around here) other human smuggling schemes. When the black market changes, they're on top of it.

Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5236 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:02 am to
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Its happening already with Fentanyl from China, coming through the border.


I’d say the China and Mexican cartel perspectives are very different. China is fine with tearing America apart with death and chaos. Cartels just want to profit off addicted customers.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15248 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:08 am to
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You talking dates or camels?

If you're talking heroin, that's not from the Middle East and is from an entirely different area and ethnicity.


What?

This is the first hit on google. From a US government website.

quote:

Around 90% of the world's opium comes from Afghanistan, and most of it is destined for the illicit market.
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:13 am to
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Our Military isnt going into Mex


quote:

Mexican cartels know what happened in the 80s in Colombia.

Well that still wasnt the US military



Define "military." If you mean conventional forces doing "as seen on TV stuff", then you're right.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:18 am to
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Around 90% of the world's opium comes from Afghanistan

Afghanistan is not in the Middle East. It's in Central Asia.

Hence,

quote:

If you're talking heroin, that's not from the Middle East and is from an entirely different area and ethnicity.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70157 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:22 am to
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don’t see how well they would be able to operate for long here, though, given that they likely stick out like a sore thumb outside of places like Dearborn.




Illegal immigrants have no laws to government them. The government is financially responsible for their relocation to where ever they want to go.

Notice crime is through the roof nationwide? Even if these people are caught, they are just released back into the countryside
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15248 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:24 am to
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Afghanistan is not in the Middle East. It's in Central Asia.

Hence,

quote:
If you're talking heroin, that's not from the Middle East and is from an entirely different area and ethnicity.




Playing semantics instead of just admitting you are wrong???

Yes it is possible for a terrorist organization to get hold of pure opium to make a deal with a Mexican cartel to gain access to our borders. That is not really even up for debate.

You can keep square pegging a round hole if you want.
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