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Memos show Ivanka and POTUS lied about security clearance process

Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:09 am
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:09 am
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WASHINGTON — President Trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, a top-secret security clearance last year, overruling concerns flagged by intelligence officials and the White House’s top lawyer, four people briefed on the matter said.

Mr. Trump’s decision in May so troubled senior administration officials that at least one, the White House chief of staff at the time, John F. Kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been “ordered” to give Mr. Kushner the top-secret clearance.

The White House counsel at the time, Donald F. McGahn II, also wrote an internal memo outlining the concerns that had been raised about Mr. Kushner — including by the C.I.A. — and how Mr. McGahn had recommended that he not be given a top-secret clearance.

The disclosure of the memos contradicts statements made by the president, who told The New York Times in January in an Oval Office interview that he had no role in his son-in-law receiving his clearance.



Here's another link which outlines their lies: LINK /

The lies, they just never stop. Big and small, he is continually proven to be a liar.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48303 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:10 am to
Got him now!!!!!

Surely the NYT published the memos they claim support this, right?
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 7:12 am
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:11 am to
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Got him now!!!!!


So what is your defense of his lying in this case? Try not to twist yourself into too many knots.
Posted by Carl Kolchak
Chicago
Member since Jan 2019
254 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:12 am to
Got a link to those memos?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:13 am to
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Surely the NYT published the memos they claim support this, right?


Surely if this were "fake news" or even inaccurate then the White house would clearly say that...

Has that happened? Oh, no?

Wonder why that is....
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48303 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:13 am to
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So what is your defense of his lying in this case? Try not to twist yourself into too many knots.


I don’t need a defense yet. Neither you nor the NYT has produced ANY evidence. If there are memos which the NYT bases these allegations upon, produce them. Until then, there is nothing but NYT speculation to comment upon. And I dont comment upon speculation of fake news purveyors.

Next question.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:13 am to
Why is the security clearance a big deal anyway? Whixh president got questioned on this sort of minutiae so regularly?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:13 am to
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So what is your defense of his lying in this case? Try not to twist yourself into too many knots.



and?

Where are the memos?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48303 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:14 am to
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Surely if this were "fake news" or even inaccurate then the White house would clearly say that...


Placing the burden on the “accused”. Compelling argument. Surely if the accuser, the NYT has an actual document as its source, it would produce it. They didn’t? Wonder why that is...
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 7:16 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12615 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:14 am to
We also had a Secretary of State with unsecured classified info free for foreign taking.

Secrets just aren’t secret anymore is it?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:14 am to
Does the president not have the right as the chief executive to grant anyone he deems necessary a security clearance? I’m quite sure he does.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45215 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:15 am to
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President Trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, a top-secret security clearance last year,


Not illegal in any sense. Womp womp
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:16 am to
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Does the president not have the right as the chief executive to grant anyone he deems necessary a security clearance? I’m quite sure he does.


Absolutely he does.... So why did he and Ivanka have to lie about it?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:17 am to
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Not illegal in any sense. Womp womp


It really does say something that every story about Trump has a bar set at "was it illegal"... What a great presidency.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48303 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:17 am to
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Absolutely he does.... So why did he and Ivanka have to lie about it?


Arguing facts not in evidence. You don’t require anything beyond the allegation when it comes to trump? Your bias is showing. Sad.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:17 am to
I think that depends on what you consider a lie.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48303 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:17 am to
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It really does say something that every story about Trump has a bar set at "was it illegal"... What a great presidency.


Hyperbole. Calm down, Frances. Your gotcha got destroyed in one page, so now you shift to this lame “argument”. What a great presidency it must be if the entire media is out to get him and this weak shite is all they can “get him” on. That is assuming they are telling the truth. Which they likely aren’t.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 7:19 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:18 am to
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Absolutely he does.... So why did he and Ivanka have to lie about it?



to give twits like you a meaningless gotcha that nobody gives a shite about?

too bad your side whines about bullshite nonsense constantly, maybe someone would pay attention to you now

kind of like calling everybody racist
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20267 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:18 am to
Did you hear about the time Obama said “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32537 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:18 am to
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