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re: Medicine Isn't A Science. Practice of the diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of disease

Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:09 pm to
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Does everyone have short term memory loss?
We don't have the luxury of just finishing our 3-day weekend doctorate at Kiro Kollege.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:09 pm to
I'm just interested in the elevated defensiveness after the chiro reference.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:10 pm to
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You continue to double down in real time as a caricature of my description of you. It's the most surreal thing.
Hard to not feed into your caricature of us when that caricature involves us being educated and you being clueless, and you hating us for it.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:10 pm to
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Like I said, whatever study we post you will find some excuse as to why it’s not satisfactory.
No I won't. You already described the study. There is no reason it doesn't exist.
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Explain to me in detail why a Guinea pig doesn’t prove the hypothesis.
Explain how guinea pigs are exactly like humans in how they spread tb. Show any study with humans. Explain how any animal study could be considered conclusive proof for humans if never repeated for humans
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:12 pm to
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Hard to not feed into your caricature of us
Yeah I know exactly what you are, I know your education, it doesn't impress me, and I know how it's bunk and you've been fooled. A duped idiot.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Yeah I know exactly what you are, I know your education, it doesn't impress me, and I know how it's bunk and you've been fooled. A duped idiot.
You don't know my education, the part you think you know is a small fraction of my education. I could school you in any subject, probably even your own field, as I have been to The Joint twice.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3789 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:16 pm to
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I have

Where is the data?

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How does one medication disprove "almost all"


How many drugs with absolutely zero nephrotoxicity do you need me to list?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:17 pm to
Let's go then. We'll do IQ tests, memorization, conceptual ability, syncretization. Pick a proctor. If I prove I'm smarter than you and the average doctor will you listen and start to face the facts?
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3789 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:21 pm to
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First they have to be allowed and approved


So if the studies aren’t allowed or approved they can’t be done?
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5076 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:21 pm to
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We'll do IQ tests, memorization, conceptual ability, syncretization.


I prefer bocce ball

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:22 pm to
Well the Guinea pigs got infected so I would say that they are enough like humans for it to work

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Explain how guinea pigs are exactly like humans in how they spread tb. Show any study with humans. Explain how any animal study could be considered conclusive proof for humans if never repeated for humans


Explain how the treatment group of Guinea pigs got TB and NONE in the control group

You must have an explanation right?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:23 pm to
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You must have an explanation right?
whatever it is, it's nowhere near as ludicrous as whatever possible explanation for human tests not existing.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:27 pm to
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If I prove I'm smarter than you and the average doctor will you listen and start to face the facts?
You'd have a better chance of teleporting here right now. I'd beat you in any standardized test. I know math, science, medicine, law, psychology, web development, programming, networking, archery, shooting, martial arts, music, and languages. And that's just the surface. You still get confused when the McFrenchFry machine at work beeps.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:28 pm to
You guys are actually very insecure. It's an edifice of arrogance and you don't like holes poked in it.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:31 pm to
Shot:
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Let's go then. We'll do IQ tests, memorization, conceptual ability, syncretization. Pick a proctor. If I prove I'm smarter than you and the average doctor will you listen and start to face the facts?


Chaser:
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You guys are actually very insecure. It's an edifice of arrogance and you don't like holes poked in it.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:31 pm to
Why exactly is a Guinea pig unacceptable?

Be specific
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:32 pm to
Because they're not humans.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5076 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:32 pm to
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It's an edifice of arrogance and you don't like holes poked in it.


I certainly don't like my holes poked.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18860 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:33 pm to
Medicine is a business but it’s dangerous because they hide behind the long-standing reputation of doctors being all knowing gods. Covid has shown me this is a farce and majority of doctors are no more skilled or bright than a Google search. There are some genuinely good docs though that want to make a difference and help people though. They aren’t all shills for big pharma.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5076 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:36 pm to
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Covid has shown me this is a farce and majority of doctors are no more skilled or bright than a Google search.


You've been treated by a majority of doctors? You have HIV?
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