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Posted on 6/8/26 at 4:59 pm to blueboy
War? That’s your term. Power made an analogy for taking Israel out in the same manner as bombing Iran after 56 years.
As far as clear evidence of USS Liberty, there is no doubt that Israel bombed the boat. Was it deliberately targeting Americans boat because it was an American vessel? Doubtfully . Was it a major phuck up by the Israeli’s, without any doubt. Power trying to equate destruction of Israel because of after 56 years to bombing Iran because of their history over 47 years of supporting American death outright and through intermediaries is but a Jew hate statement, possibly trying to get an a arousal.
As far as clear evidence of USS Liberty, there is no doubt that Israel bombed the boat. Was it deliberately targeting Americans boat because it was an American vessel? Doubtfully . Was it a major phuck up by the Israeli’s, without any doubt. Power trying to equate destruction of Israel because of after 56 years to bombing Iran because of their history over 47 years of supporting American death outright and through intermediaries is but a Jew hate statement, possibly trying to get an a arousal.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:24 pm to Nosevens
quote:No, it is confirmed that they knew it was American and they attacked it. I'm sure they'd hoped to blame it on Egypt, but they 100% knew the boat was American.
Was it deliberately targeting Americans boat because it was an American vessel? Doubtfully
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:14 pm to blueboy
Confirmed ? By who ?
Both the Israeli and United States governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity.[4]
NSA released documents, in 2006 I believe, gives nothing to account of your definitive understanding that they knew it was American ship versus the Egyptians ship. It was tragic not strategic destruction
Both the Israeli and United States governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity.[4]
NSA released documents, in 2006 I believe, gives nothing to account of your definitive understanding that they knew it was American ship versus the Egyptians ship. It was tragic not strategic destruction
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:08 pm to Nosevens
quote:All of the survivors and the flight recordings of the Israeli pilots. It was very clear. They flew over the ship several times before the attack. One of the pilots even waved to the crewmen as he passed.
Confirmed ? By who ?
Yeah, Johnson ran interference for Israel, just like he stopped the nuclear inquiry on them that JFK was pushing before he died.
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We were fired upon by the Israelis for the better share of two hours—aircraft, motor torpedo boats. Eight hundred twenty-six large caliber strikes aboard the ship. There were over 3,100 heavy machine gun caliber strikes on the ship. Five torpedoes were fired at us. One struck the ship just forward of the mid-ships. I was in an enclosed area below the waterline when that torpedo struck. I was less than 10 feet from it looking at it when it blew. It killed 25 men all around me. 34 Americans were killed. 174 were wounded. Actually, there were probably more than that, but there were a total of 208 Purple Hearts awarded. Israel claimed it was a case of mistaken identity. They claimed they had mistaken us for an Egyptian ship, the El Quesir, which was a World War I horse transport.
I suppose you could claim Israeli pilots were colorblind. U.S. ships are painted gray with home markings and English lettering. Egyptian ships are painted black with home markings in Arabic script. Hardly possible to mistake the identity. The American flag was flying. There was a short five-day inquiry made by the U.S. government in Rota, Spain that concluded we accepted Israel’s excuse of mistaken identity and the case was closed. The crew members were ordered not to talk about it under a threat of imprisonment and the whole case was covered up. It has never been investigated by the U.S. Congress as is required by Article 1, Section 8, U.S. Constitution.
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Transcripts of intercepts show Israeli helicopter pilots reporting to ground control that they spotted an American flag on the vessel
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Oliver Kirby, the NSA's deputy director for operations at the time, confirmed to the Chicago Tribune that he personally read the translated transcripts which indicated Israeli forces knew they were striking a U.S. ship
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The records detailed that while communications after the initial strike were monitored by U.S. Navy aircraft, recordings of the initial air and torpedo attacks were missing
quote:Chicago Tribune: New revelations in attack on American spy ship
Crewmembers aboard the Liberty stated they were overflown multiple times by low-flying Israeli aircraft prior to the attack, allowing pilots to visually identify the vessel and its markings
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:38 pm to blueboy
Hmm, but you do you
that Chicago rag was a copy of the Aljazeera reporting
But
At 13:10Z, one of the helicopter pilots asked the nearby torpedo boats' Division Commander about the meaning of the ship's hull number: "GTR5 is written on it. Does this mean something?" The response was: "Negative, it doesn't mean anything." At 13:12Z, one of the helicopter pilots was asked by air control: "Did you clearly identify an American flag?" No answer appears in the transcript, but the air controller then says: "We request that you make another pass and check once more if this is really an American flag." Again, no response appears in the transcript. At about 13:14Z, the helicopters were directed to return home.
American crew says the attacking aircraft did not make identification runs over Liberty, but began to strafe immediately. Israel says several identification passes were made. The Naval Court of Enquiry, based on the Israeli timeline of events, found: "One may infer from the fact that within a period of approximately 15 minutes, the request was transmitted, received, a command decision made, aircraft dispatched, and the attack launched, that no significant time was expended in an effort to identify the ship from the air before the attack was launched."[132]
So stupidity as the phuck up began on Israel’s part in 1967 during a war , that’s no where near intentional. But judging in the 2000’s of 1967 young nations fight of existence is not relevant considering the US uses them as well as Israel uses America, mutually agreed upon for different purposes
that Chicago rag was a copy of the Aljazeera reporting
But
At 13:10Z, one of the helicopter pilots asked the nearby torpedo boats' Division Commander about the meaning of the ship's hull number: "GTR5 is written on it. Does this mean something?" The response was: "Negative, it doesn't mean anything." At 13:12Z, one of the helicopter pilots was asked by air control: "Did you clearly identify an American flag?" No answer appears in the transcript, but the air controller then says: "We request that you make another pass and check once more if this is really an American flag." Again, no response appears in the transcript. At about 13:14Z, the helicopters were directed to return home.
American crew says the attacking aircraft did not make identification runs over Liberty, but began to strafe immediately. Israel says several identification passes were made. The Naval Court of Enquiry, based on the Israeli timeline of events, found: "One may infer from the fact that within a period of approximately 15 minutes, the request was transmitted, received, a command decision made, aircraft dispatched, and the attack launched, that no significant time was expended in an effort to identify the ship from the air before the attack was launched."[132]
So stupidity as the phuck up began on Israel’s part in 1967 during a war , that’s no where near intentional. But judging in the 2000’s of 1967 young nations fight of existence is not relevant considering the US uses them as well as Israel uses America, mutually agreed upon for different purposes
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:17 pm to Nosevens
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that Chicago rag was a copy of the Aljazeera reporting
The Chicago Tribune. But I guess that beats trying to counter the facts presented. And my other info doesn't come from that article anyway, but the survivors website and other articles/interviews. Yours comes from the Wiki page.
quote:No, they didn't. Many have said they did multiple flyovers
American crew says the attacking aircraft did not make identification runs over Liberty,
quote:Yeah, it is. They attacked the ship for over two hours and also sent gun boats to finish off any survivors.
that’s no where near intentional.
Keep quoting the government whitewash (wiki), though. True believer idiots may eat it up because they have to in order to keep worshipping Israel, but anyone with at least half a brain can easily find out what happened.
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