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Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:22 am to AggieHank86
So Hank if there is a serial killer in a wheelchair, that has no way of escaping, would you advocate for them being put in a minimum security prison
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:23 am
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:25 am to AggieHank86
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he has been deprived of his liberty.
He surrendered his liberty by traumatizing children for life.
The punishment should be very severe, the det
A deterrent should be as strong as constitutionally possible.
Most of us don't view child rapists in the romantic way you do.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:27 am to AggieHank86
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You seem to be intent upon imposing penalties that lie outside the penal code
Youre getting dumber by the day. Youre projecting, I never said anything of the sort.
Wanting to put Pedos in with other prisoners who have committed violent crimes is not outside the scope of anything, you twit.
Youre the one wanting special treatment just for pedos.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:29 am to SOSFAN
Good for the dad. I hope it was a slow painful death for the pervert.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:29 am to SOSFAN
quote:and this takes us back to the question of “what is the primary purpose for the prison system?”
Minimum security is for non violent offenders.
if you believe (as I do) at the primary purpose is to protect society from further offenses during the term of the offenders judicially-determined sentence, any prison that keeps the offender incarcerated for the full term serves that purpose. And I believe that the state has a duty to the taxpayer to fulfill that obligation in a cost effective manner. Imprisoning an offender who is very unlikely to attempt escape for 1/3 the cost meets that obligation
If a person believes (as apparently you do) that the primary purpose is either punishment or deterrence, that person might well see the matter differently. In that case, we again reach the question of whether the state has a constitutional duty NOT to imprison a given offender in a way that is almost-guaranteed to produce “punishment“ in excess of the penalties set forth in the Penal Code.
I think that the state DOES have such an obligation. in a system of “limited government, the state should (voluntarily) comply with the Constitution. If the people of a given state want to see harsher sentences for offenders (of any class and for any offense), they should have their legislature revise the relevant statutes.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:31 am to AggieHank86
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Whenever there is a conviction for sexual misconduct in an inmate’s background, regardless of whether it involves the offense of conviction for which the inmate is serving time, the federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) applies a “sex offender” Public Safety Factor (PSF). This PSF results in a number of restrictions on the inmate, including:
· Placement in at least a low-security institution. Sex offenders are disqualified from minimum-security (camp) placement
Honestly you would think an "Attorney" would know this and understand the law. Why are you arguing to change the law for pedophiles
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:33 am
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:31 am to SOSFAN
By any means necessary
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:31 am to AggieHank86
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“what is the primary purpose for the prison system?”
For child rapists, it should be..
1) They can never offend again
2) A deterrent for other pedos.
Which other crimes should get minimum?
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:34 am to SOSFAN
quote:There would be a certain logic to it, but you would get yourself into a problem closely akin to “selective enforcement.“ Rather than treating a class of prisoner uniformly, you would be getting very close to actually providing the “preferential treatment“ of a very specific prisoner that seems to bother Roger to such an extent.
Hank if there is a serial killer in a wheelchair, that has no way of escaping, would you advocate for them being put in a minimum security prison
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:odd that he continues to advocate for them
Youre the one wanting special treatment just for pedos.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:38 am to AggieHank86
Hank you do know it's the law that sexual offenders cannot be housed in a minimum security prison don't you? Even if your crime you're serving time is not a sexual offense as long as you have been convicted of one in the past it makes you ineligible.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:39 am to AggieHank86
This thread has convinced me that you are the biggest and most successful troll on SECR. How do I know? Anyone as stupid as you prove to be everyday would have forgotten to breath or used a hair dryer in a bathtub by now. Congrats, master troll.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:40 am to UncleFestersLegs
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odd that he continues to advocate for them
Its all he is known for here.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:42 am to SOSFAN
quote:You are babbling again. It is YOU who continues to use the term “minimum security.“ Re-read the thread. I have always used either “low“ or “lower.”quote:Honestly you would think an "Attorney" would know this and understand the law. Why are you arguing to change the law for pedophiles
Placement in at least a low-security institution. Sex offenders are disqualified from minimum-security (camp) placement
in any case, I never claimed to have done criminal work. Given your obsession with this topic, your familiarity with sentencing guidelines is probably greater than my own.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:46 am
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:43 am to SOSFAN
quote:SOS, do you think that asking the same question twice in a couple of minutes is going to get you different answers?
Hank you do know it's the law that sexual offenders cannot be housed in a minimum security prison don't you? Even if your crime you're serving time is not a sexual offense as long as you have been convicted of one in the past it makes you ineligible.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:47 am to AggieHank86
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is YOU who continues to use the term “minimum security.“ Re-read the thread. I have always used either “low“ or “lower.”
Correct I said medium or maximum and you said lower. Does your dumbass comprehend that lower than medium is called minimum.
I slapped you in the face with the actual law, which defeats your whole argument, and now you're upset that your " I'm an attorney that swoops in and corrects incorrect post" has been severely tainted.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:54 am
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:49 am to AggieHank86
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, do you think that asking the same question twice in a couple of minutes is going to get you different answers
With your posting history? Yes I would expect to get multiple answers from you depending on the flow of the thread.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:52 am to AggieHank86
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I never claimed to have done criminal work. Given your obsession with this topic, your familiarity with sentencing guidelines is probably greater than my own
Translation: I have no come back and admit to not knowing wtf I'm talking about.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:54 am to SOSFAN
quote:Apparently, you do not understand that “minimum security“ and “low security“ are two separate categories of prison/incarceration.
Correct I said medium or maximum and you said lower. Does your dumbass comprehend that lower than medium is called minimum. I slapped you in the face with the actual law
You said “Blue.“ I said “Green.“ And now you are pretending that you won some sort of battle of wits because you mistakenly believe that blue and green are the same color?
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:57 am
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