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Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:53 am to volhound
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What? He refuses to stop when asked to ok i get that but when you start fighting the fricking police that is a bad idea. He was smothered after he became combative
Perhaps he was being "combative" because he was being harassed for no reason. Cops seem to think they do whatever they want whenever they want with no repercussions.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:54 am to CptBengal
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If as an innocent civilian I am tackled and pepper sprayed by a gang of thugs in badges...damn fricking right I'm gonna fight back
Will you run when the police come to investigate your child being beaten by your wife in public?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:54 am to NC_Tigah
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He was smothering to death.
Based on what? the fact that the video shows him detained? To be honest no one except eye witness and the cops know what happened. The mother doesn't because she was trying to drive the frick away.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:55 am to volhound
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He was running from them, so if you have done nothing wrong why not stop and instead of looking like you are trying to run away.
Well he deserves to die then, huh? fricking idiot.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:56 am to Patrick O Rly
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Well he deserves to die then, huh? fricking idiot.
Prove where I said he deserves to die?
fricking idiot.....classy
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:57 am to Alahunter
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Will you run when the police come to investigate your child being beaten by your wife in public?
Do I deserve to die if I do?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:58 am to CptBengal
Answering with a question. Awesome.
So you're ok with your wife beating your child in public and prefer to run when trouble arises?
So you're ok with your wife beating your child in public and prefer to run when trouble arises?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:00 pm to Alahunter
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So you're ok with your wife beating your child in public and prefer to run when trouble arises?
That is not the issue. The issue is police harassment and their tendencies to resort to violence at the drop of a hat.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:00 pm to Sevendust912
quote:Perhaps.
Perhaps he was being "combative" because he was being harassed for no reason
Perhaps a scared cop shot him with pepper spray and he went into laryngospasm or bronchospasm. Regardless, if 5 thugs continue to hold your head underwater, telling you to stay still. After about a minute, you'll fight like hell, you'll fight for your life.
If you are a cop on top on someone you are attempting to subdue, and he becomes totally flaccid, limp, lifeless, do you continue "subduing" him? That is continuation is what the video shows.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:01 pm to volhound
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Prove where I said he deserves to die?
Well, he's dead, and you're in this thread defending this BS, so you tell me?
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:02 pm to Alahunter
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Will you run when the police come to investigate your child being beaten by your wife in public?
No
What the frick does that have to do with the subject at hand? It's do cops have the right to tackle and detain someone who's innocent and running.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:03 pm to Sevendust912
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Perhaps he was being "combative" because he was being harassed for no reason
I've seen this happen. Cop gets rough with a guy, guy resists, guy gets slammed face first to the ground by two guys.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:03 pm to Sevendust912
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The issue is police harassment and their tendencies to resort to violence at the drop of a hat.
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That is not the issue either
the issue, is the police being called to a domestic disturbance, not knowing who the guilty party is, and meeting someone who is allegedly combative. The rest of the issue, is not knowing in full detail, what exactly went down, and only seeing part of a video, and hearing the cries of the man's wife, who was the one who started the incident to begin with. There's too much information left out, to draw any logical conclusions one way or the other. Perhaps, they overstepped their bounds and caused the death of the man. Perhaps, the force was necessary to subdue him, due to his fighting back beforehand. Perhaps, he stroked out or had a heart attack. At this point, everything is conjecture. But too many are forming opinions as fact, based on not having near enough knowledge of the situation and how it actually unfolded.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's do cops have the right to tackle and detain someone who's innocent and running
How did they know he was innocent. They were called to a criminal complaint and he acted in a manner inconsistent to what a normal individual would do.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Yep.
It's do cops have the right to tackle and detain someone who's innocent and running.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:05 pm to Patrick O Rly
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Well, he's dead, and you're in this thread defending this BS, so you tell me?
Still does not equate to me defending he deserved to die. That's a bullshite statement. It would be like me saying that you believe that every one is considered to be innocent before proven guilty, unless your a cop.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I've seen this happen. Cop gets rough with a guy, guy resists, guy gets slammed face first to the ground by two guys.
That's another thing that is a problem. Not showing these thugs the level of respect they think they are entitled to is considered "resisting" or "combative behavior"
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:08 pm to Alahunter
quote:The cries "What are you doing?! He isn't moving!!" "Stop! You're killing him!"
and hearing the cries of the man's wife
Those cries?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:10 pm to volhound
Yes it does. Why even bother defending their actions? Even if he was "combative," he was unarmed and out numbered. There's no fricking reason he should be dead, but he is. All this other shite of why it escalated is a moot.
Oh give me a fricking break. Not comparable at all. We know the guy was unarmed. The officers were under no physical danger. Deadly force wasn't necessary, period.
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It would be like me saying that you believe that every one is considered to be innocent before proven guilty, unless your a cop.
Oh give me a fricking break. Not comparable at all. We know the guy was unarmed. The officers were under no physical danger. Deadly force wasn't necessary, period.
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