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re: MAGA is dead, stick a fork in it. Has been successfully co-opted

Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:18 pm to
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I get heavily downvoted and laughed at each time I say that AOC or Mandami can and will win in 2028 or 2032 if Trump & the GOP continues to go down the path they are going down


It’s always funny to me when far left wackos tell republicans what they should do.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:18 pm to
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I get heavily downvoted and laughed at each time I say that AOC or Mandami can and will win in 2028 or 2032 if Trump & the GOP continues to go down the path they are going down


Exactly. I told these baws to step outside their tiny bubble and observe that life is far different than the influencers they believe are telling them.

We absolutely can have a Democrat Socialist as POTUS soon, if Trump doesnt wake up to the realities Americans are facing.

Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26363 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:21 pm to
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It’s always funny to me when far left wackos tell republicans what they should do.



I'm not far left, I am just a realist who knows that this administration is wearing out its welcome among a large swath of voters who gave them a chance last year
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:21 pm to

*sniff* … *sniff* … I smell ratio ….
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297577 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:22 pm to
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It’s always funny to me when far left wackos tell republicans what they should do.


He's 10x the conservative you are.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:23 pm to
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Exactly. I told these baws to step outside their tiny bubble and observe that life is far different than the influencers they believe are telling them.



If all I did was watch FOX News and follow X accounts like catturd, Eric Daughtery, Bill Mitchell and Collin Rugg I'd think that everything was unicorns and rainbows too

I'd also probably attack those who want to defeat Lindsey Graham and Randy Fine in their upcoming primaries

These sycophants who continue to act like everything Trump and the GOP do is awesome and amazing are going to drag Trump and the GOP right into a historic midterm defeat and 2028 loss
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297577 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:24 pm to
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These sycophants who continue to act like everything Trump and the GOP do is awesome and amazing are going to drag Trump and the GOP right into a historic midterm defeat and 2028 loss


And they'll blame people like you, who are more in line with conservatism than they are.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57225 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:25 pm to
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who are more in line with conservatism than they are.


you see who you posted that to?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57225 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:25 pm to
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I'm not far left, I am just a realist


Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26363 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:27 pm to
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And they'll blame people like you, who are more in line with conservatism than they are.



No doubt about it, all the blame will fall on the "panicans" and those who didn't march in lockstep with everything this administration has done

They will blame Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, Rich Baris, Mark Mitchell, and others sounding the alarms while ignoring their own actions (and inaction) that actually caused it
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:27 pm to
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you see who you posted that to?


Yes, you are far less conservative than Republicans. You folks are the RINOs.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10693 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:27 pm to
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Has absolutely hurt Republicans.


Not to the point that they can't win. And that's a fact.

And like I always ask in these discussions, what is the point of winning if you're scared to advance your agenda? If all you're willing to do when you win is what Democrats are also willing to do, what's the point?

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So will increased HC cost.


How will increased health INSURANCE costs hurt Republicans when it was the Democrats who passed the legislation that currently governs it and keeps driving the costs up?

Again, that sounds like an education solution.

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good luck axing it with no reforms to counter.


What reforms did Republicans have to counter the overturning of Roe v Wade?

Getting rid of Obamacare IS the reform.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57225 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Yes, you are far less conservative than Republicans. You folks are the RINOs.

says the “tax the rich” “conservative”


Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2919 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:30 pm to
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My work here is done.


Odd how you consider trolling as "work".

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Ive outed you as a fraud. A faux intellectual.


Sure you have. INCOMING!!



Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57225 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:31 pm to
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Odd how you consider trolling as "work".


You got called out for your inability to provide any substance or specifics. You continue to prove yourself a fraud. Post some specifics. (You won’t). Faux intellectual. Everyone now can see it. You made it easy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297577 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:33 pm to
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How will increased health INSURANCE costs hurt Republicans


Because people who have ACA insurance arent wanting the subsidies to go away and will vote for people who didnt do that.

Why do you think Trump wants to extend the subsidies?

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President Donald Trump now says extending Affordable Care Act subsidies "may be necessary" as the enrollment deadline looms for millions of Americans who are set to see their premiums skyrocket in the new year
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This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26363 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Yes, you are far less conservative than Republicans. You folks are the RINOs.



I don't even consider myself a conservative because there is nothing worth conserving at the moment

I am a restorationist, I want to see America restored to what it once was. But each time someone comes along who wants to do that like Pat Buchanan or Ross Perot they get marginalized. It looked like Trump could have been that guy but he was co-opted by the same globalist neocons that co-opted Reagan

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297577 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:38 pm to
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I don't even consider myself a conservative because there is nothing worth conserving at the moment


The best we can do is slow down the destruction, but 2020 ruined any chance of that.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10693 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:45 pm to
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Because people who have ACA insurance arent wanting the subsidies to go away and will vote for people who didnt do that.


O.k., so that's roughly 21 million Americans.

Twice that number receive SNAP benefits. Three and a half times receive Medicaid and another three and a half receive Medicare. Assuming that many who receive SNAP also receive Medicaid and subtracting the 12.5 million Americans who are eligible for both Medicare and Medicaid, we're talking about maybe 130 million Americans, or roughly six times the number of Americans affected by the ACA subsidies situation are negatively impacted by the Republicans' Big Beautiful Bill, and a significant percentage of those are likely affected by more than one program.

So why are we not afraid to make all those folks unhappy with the provisions in the Big Beautiful Bill?

Why is it just the 6% of the population receiving health insurance subsidies who dictate that the ACA is politically untouchable?
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297577 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:49 pm to
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O.k., so that's roughly 21 million Americans.



Thats a lot of potential votes.


You have to replace Obamacare, not just revoke it.
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