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Louisiana conservatives -- don't get lulled to sleep in the govs race

Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Ron Grover
Member since Sep 2019
250 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:02 pm
I'm amazed that the gov's race is still too close to call and hope conservatives wake up and vote conservative this weekend. In general, one of the highest-level philosophical differences between Rs and Ds is that D’s believe in more government services and need higher taxes to achieve it.

In his first three years as governor JBE massively increased state government obligations via Medicaid expansion and strong-armed legislators into increasing tax rates necessary to support it. Special session after special session after special session was called until he got his own way. This isn’t conjecture. It literally happened.

As a legislator, JBE was the chairman of the Democratic Caucus for eight years—that’s not a moderate role. As a legislator JBE did zero to prove himself as a moderate on any really meaningful issues. He did zero to improve infrastructure, certainly nothing to reduce taxes, and personally introduced multiple bills designed to increase lawsuits (or how much more lawyers could earn from lawsuits).

JBE's not moderate. He’s not conservative. It’s just that his brand of liberal isn’t West Coast tranny scary like Pelosi or New World Order scary like Obama.

But, his brand of government tit, fender-bender-lottery liberal should concern you if you work, pay taxes, and are tired of getting very little back from your state tax dollars while Louisiana slowly continues dying from decades of self-inflicted wounds.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:09 pm to
JBE's GOTV specialist, Scott Arceneaux, worked the 2016 Race in North Carolina for Hillary Clinton and the 2018 Governor's race for Andrew Gillum in Florida. He was able to jump and amp up black turnout in early voting and there was talk about how that was going to be the difference in Clinton and Gillum winning against Trump and Desantis.

Turns out Arceneaux merely cannibalized black turnout and Trump and DeSantis won big on election day and were able to pull out the victory.

I would not be surprised if black turnout for louisiana in 2019 drops to 29 or even 28 percent instead of the 31 percent they need.

But of course, this is depending on Rispone having one hell of a GOTV effort on Saturday like Trump and DeSantis did in 2016 and 2018.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:12 pm to
A vote for JBE is a vote for the status quo and the same shitty government, same high auto insurance rates, same high taxes, more extortionist lawsuits against the economic engine of Louisiana and more jobs and friends and family leaving Louisiana.

A vote for Rispone is a vote to change all of that for the better including a constitutional convention where power is decentralized away from Baton Rouge and the Governor's power is limited including getting rid of the line item veto.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:46 pm to
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vote for JBE is a vote for the status quo and the same shitty government, same high auto insurance rates, same high taxes, more extortionist lawsuits against the economic engine of Louisiana and more jobs and friends and family leaving Louisiana.


I acknowledge that you have the best political acumen on here. But if were honest, is JBE really the source of all those problems. We had those issues before Jindal, JBE has exacerbated them.

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A vote for Rispone is a vote to change all of that for the better including a constitutional convention where power is decentralized away from Baton Rouge and the Governor's power is limited including getting rid of the line item veto.


Do you honestly believe a constitutional convention is possible? No sarcasm, seriously?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:52 pm to
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I acknowledge that you have the best political acumen on here




Please.

You give me way too much credit. I'm just an Average joe that doesn't act like a crazed idiot on this board and just simply pay attention to the nuts and bolts of the stories of the day.

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But if were honest, is JBE really the source of all those problems.



No. But he has not helped fix them either. If anything, he has only encouraged more of those problems.

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We had those issues before Jindal,


And shame on Bobby for refusing to use his political capital to fix those issues. He deserved to leave office in disgrace after negligence like that.

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JBE has exacerbated them.



Correct.

And that's why he has to be removed from office.

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Do you honestly believe a constitutional convention is possible? No sarcasm, seriously?



If a constitutional convention doesn't happen, it won't be for a lack of trying and effort on the part of Rispone and conservatives.
Posted by Ron Grover
Member since Sep 2019
250 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:55 pm to
JBE--the candidate--has received millions of dollars of support from the same national Democrat groups that support a wide range of far-left freak shows across the country. He's gotten millions more from a very small percentage of Louisiana lawyers who benefit financially from our state's outlier sue-and-settle lawsuit culture (and the convenient laws that allow it).

JBE just happens to be less aggressively weird than people like Bernie Sanders, Pelosi, or Pocahontas. It doesn't make him a conservative Democrat...it just makes him not a complete weirdo.

JBE's political philosophy is cut from the same piece of cloth as the Clintons and the Landrieus; it's why he endorsed them and voted for them. He's far less politically savvy than Edwin Edwards or else I'd throw his name in there as well.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35911 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:04 pm to
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I acknowledge that you have the best political acumen on here. But if were honest, is JBE really the source of all those problems. We had those issues before Jindal, JBE has exacerbated them.


Bottom line? Edwards isn’t going to change anything. What we have now isn’t going to change.

Higher spending and taxes
No growth economy
Last in everything
Growing highway backlog
High insurance rates

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Do you honestly believe a constitutional convention is possible? No sarcasm, seriously?

Possible? Yes if Rispone wins
Probable? No, less than 50/50
Needed? Yes
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:28 pm to
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JBE's not moderate. He’s not conservative. It’s just that his brand of liberal isn’t West Coast tranny scary like Pelosi or New World Order scary like Obama.


Great, I’m convinced.

Now, tell me how Eddie Rispone is a conservative. Provide links. Good luck - you’ll need it.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:38 pm to
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Now, tell me how Eddie Rispone is a conservative. Provide links. Good luck - you’ll need it.


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Rock the Casbah


I sympathize with you and your anger in how Rispone went scorched earth on a good man in Ralph Abraham. It was a shameful and unnecessary mistake.

But JBE has absolutely been worthless to the producers of Louisiana and is in the process of chasing them out of Louisiana and Ralph Abraham endorsed Eddie Rispone to stop that and who are you tell him no when he’s trying to influence your final vote towards that?

We have nothing to lose taking a chance on Rispone. JBE refuses to change and Rispone can’t be any worse.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9464 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:41 pm to
I'm voting for Rispone...all is well baws.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11566 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:51 pm to
Interesting that Eric Holder and the DC gang are infusing more cash to JBE here at the last minute. This gives me hope that even with the early vote breakdowns, they are worried.
Posted by Ron Grover
Member since Sep 2019
250 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 4:44 pm to
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Great, I’m convinced.


Fair enough.

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Now, tell me how Eddie Rispone is a conservative.


Haha. Fair enough again. I don't know how to convince you Rispone is more conservative than JBE, but liberals don't massively contribute to Republicans

I was a supporter of Abraham in the primary and still prefer him for several reasons. But, I've lived here far too long and recognize that JBE is nothing other than an old-line Louisiana gubment hog at the trough.

Rispone and his family built an incredibly successful business. He's not a perfect candidate...those don't exist anywhere outside of Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan. Rispone will be just fine as a governor. He's a 70-year-old man who wants to see Louisiana do better than it is; that was something I really liked about Abraham also. I firmly believe he's running for the right reasons--not looking to line his pockets with public dollars or dish out state contracts to friends and family.

We likely have the most conservative legislature in Louisiana history lined up. We've tested "moderate," fiscally liberal legislatures for many decades and it just isn't working. It would be nice for taxpayers to get a few wins signed by Rispone instead of vetoed by JBE.
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