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Literature that should be required reading for anyone referencing the Holocaust
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:08 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Only a Nazi sympathizer would downvote Maus...or a disciple of Ho-casio Cortez.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:22 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I remember reading the Diary of Anne Frank, Night, and Counting the Stars.
My son read Night a couple of years ago. My daughter read Counting the Stars.
At least they are still teaching about it.
My son read Night a couple of years ago. My daughter read Counting the Stars.
At least they are still teaching about it.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:27 pm to TheFonz
IIRC, only Anne Frank's father survived.
Maus is literally told from the perspective of Spiegelman's father Jakob. It not only goes into his time in the camps, but also his struggles readjusting after the liberation.
There's one particular panel that really stood out. One of his fellow captives had two sons in the SS, and Art asked his father why he wouldn't be depicted as a cat? The response was, "to the guards, all prisoners were jews".
I haven't read it in a while, but I think Jakob was spared because he spoke English, German, and Polish, so he was useful to the guards.
Maus is literally told from the perspective of Spiegelman's father Jakob. It not only goes into his time in the camps, but also his struggles readjusting after the liberation.
There's one particular panel that really stood out. One of his fellow captives had two sons in the SS, and Art asked his father why he wouldn't be depicted as a cat? The response was, "to the guards, all prisoners were jews".
I haven't read it in a while, but I think Jakob was spared because he spoke English, German, and Polish, so he was useful to the guards.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:35 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Why is the holocaust always in the news? Can we address things happening now instead.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:37 pm to Placebeaux
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Why is the holocaust always in the news? Can we address things happening now instead.
It's in the news because that puta mierda from New York is literally saying that ICE detainment facilities are concentration camps then DOUBLING DOWN on stupid when called out on it.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:41 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Art Spiegelman (/'spi?g?lm?n/; born Itzhak Avraham ben Zeev Spiegelman on February 15, 1948) is an American cartoonist, editor, and comics advocate best known for his graphic novel Maus. His work as co-editor on the comics magazines Arcade and Rawhas been influential, and from 1992 he spent a decade as contributing artist for The New Yorker. He is married to designer and editor Françoise Moulyand is the father of writer Nadja Spiegelman.
So he is a cartoonist. Not really a historian by profession. Although he has made great contributions to comics as a medium.
I'll check out Maus.
Art Spiegelman
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Spiegelman is a non-practicing Jew and considers himself "a-Zionist"—neither pro- nor anti-Zionist; he has called Israel "a sad, failed idea".[72] He told Charles Schulz he was not religious, but identified with the "alienated diaspora culture of Kafka and Freud ... what Stalin pejoratively called rootless cosmopolitanism".[106]
Interesting take he has on Israel.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:42 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Two Hundred Years Together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:50 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
GTFO here with your Generation X "reading privilege", baw.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:56 pm to volod
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Interesting take he has on Israel
Zionism is controversial in the Jewish community.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:57 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I downvote people when they complain about downvotes
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:58 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
No, The Holocaust by Gilbert Martin is a far better choice.
It doesn’t have any cartoon characters however, so it may not be for you.
It doesn’t have any cartoon characters however, so it may not be for you.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:59 pm to TheFonz
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Night
Great book. Short and easy read.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:05 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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concentration camps
My son has ADHD. Maybe this is what he needs instead of baseball camp.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:13 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Auschwitz Volunteer by Witold Pilecki. Im 150pages into it and have had to put it down several times. The story of ....guards having detainees buried headfirst and betting on how long till the legs stopped moving or random days ..names being called out and you were executed...trying to survive on no food and trying to stay awake for days on end so as to keep the lice off. Juxtaposed against getting a temp gig improvising a remodel of a SS officers house so that it would be done for Mrs SS officer's arrival. In the town...kids were playing laughing...babies born etc but two miles up the road kids were executed while clinging in fright to their helpless parents.
This use of "Nazi" ..."Hitler" ..."concentration camps" has to stop. People that throw these out recklessly are dam fools. There was a depravity in Nazi Germany that is so far removed from present life.
This use of "Nazi" ..."Hitler" ..."concentration camps" has to stop. People that throw these out recklessly are dam fools. There was a depravity in Nazi Germany that is so far removed from present life.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:14 pm to Vestigial Morgan
You know it was bad when the depiction in "Wolfenstein" was maybe not much of an exaggeration of them...
It is humbling to realize that, had the Nazis won World War II, I would have never been born (my mother was born in 1946 to a Jewish couple).
It is humbling to realize that, had the Nazis won World War II, I would have never been born (my mother was born in 1946 to a Jewish couple).
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 4:57 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Germans.
Actually, Polish. (Main character in the series is Polish)
Posted on 6/19/19 at 5:51 pm to Vestigial Morgan
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There was a depravity in Nazi Germany that is so far removed from present life.
There certainly was and I'm not getting the down votes you received.
That depravity may not be so far removed as you think. Humanity and civilization sometimes seem like pretty thin veneer covering what horrors may lay just below the surface.
When all life isn't precious and protected, no life is truly safe.
When peace and civility are viewed and enjoyed as simple calculations of economic well being, pursuit of physical pleasure and material objects, and freedom has devolved into licentiousness without personal responsibility or consequences, should those externals be shattered and removed, lawless anarchy or tyrannical authoritarianism often rise to power, both equally cruel and soulless.
The election of President Trump has slowed the pace of our country's slide into a socialist tyranny but make no mistake, the Barbarians are not just at the gates but in the wire.
I'm a tad gloomy today. And apparently brooding.
Poor Mrs. M. She puts up with a lot. Knee injections have not yet taken full effect and that is some of the pain talking. Down vote away. Time to bathe four dogs and drink some single malt.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 6:15 pm to Vestigial Morgan
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There was a depravity in Nazi Germany that is so far removed from present life.
Like injecting salts into wombs to dissolve babies and vacuum them out to put into a dumpster?
Just as bad
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