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re: Life w/o parole for 2.4 lbs. of weed + 104 years for 30g of cocaine: welcome to Alabama

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Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17612 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:59 pm to
Strong deterrence like this is needed to clean up this country.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:59 pm to
Right. E says voluntary transactions aren't victimless but can't answer why. It's a troll
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:00 pm to
this just in: conservatives want to tell you what you can and can't do with your body.

more at 5
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:00 pm to
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On what?


Several things. What was sold, what was the result, etc.

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You agreed


Maybe.

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How is there a victim?


There may not be, but that doesn't make it absolute.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:01 pm to
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But the transaction resulted in more than an exchange of drugs and money. That result couldn't have happened without the initial transaction. That makes them related.


That's beyond the transaction and unrelated
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:02 pm to
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can't answer why


Incorrect.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:02 pm to
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Strong deterrence like this is needed to clean up this country.


Because the amount of people in prison now is simply not doing the job of stopping crime.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:02 pm to
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That's beyond the transaction and unrelated



You're really going to tell me that the following words don't make these crimes sound related to you?
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According to the Sheriff's Office, both groups arrived at the home armed with guns. Detectives believe that each group was anticipating violence. Investigators said the buyers -- Donaldson, Bickham and Gayles -- pulled up to the home, and Donaldson and Gayles got out of the vehicle with guns.

The sellers -- Davis, Hartley and Ussin -- left the home and met the accused buyers, and both sides began firing at one another during the transaction, the Sheriff's Office said.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:03 pm to
Going to an ATM should be illegal. People get held up at gun point at those things.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:03 pm to
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There may not be, but that doesn't make it absolute.


Sure. I may drop the toothpaste and slip on it.

The transaction however was voluntary and victimless.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:04 pm to
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How is there a victim?


There may not be, but that doesn't make it absolute.



I think the better question is does legalization mitigate these risks by lowering crime during purchase, and letting people have more freedom over there lives?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:04 pm to
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I may drop the toothpaste and slip on it.


That wouldn't make you a victim.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:04 pm to
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The sellers -- Davis, Hartley and Ussin -- left the home and met the accused buyers, and both sides began firing at one another during the transaction, the Sheriff's Office said.


Doesn't sound like the transaction was completed
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:05 pm to
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That wouldn't make you a victim.


But would it make him a perp?

OMG we need to save ourselves from such horror!
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:05 pm to
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Doesn't sound like the transaction was completed




So it happened during the transaction then? You realize that makes your claim of unrelated look even more foolish, right?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:06 pm to
Nope.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:06 pm to
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may drop the toothpaste and slip on it.


That wouldn't make you a victim.


How could the transaction make either a victim?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:06 pm to
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Nope


Exactly. People should be able to suffer from their own mistakes without big nanny state stepping in.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:07 pm to
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So it happened during the transaction then? You realize that makes your claim of unrelated look even more foolish, right?


Why did they fight? It says they came expecting violence. Sure appears to be something other than a dope deal to me
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:08 pm to
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Why did they fight? It says they came expecting violence. Sure appears to be something other than a dope deal to me



That doesn't make it unrelated though. You're getting close to just admitting that you took it too far. Will you actually say it?
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