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re: Life w/o parole for 2.4 lbs. of weed + 104 years for 30g of cocaine: welcome to Alabama

Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20919 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:32 pm to
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Which is why true conservatives need to work to change the laws
If morons who use drugs (I include alcohol in that) could manage to do so in the privacy of their homes I'd never have a problem with it.

Sadly though they get out on the roads and are threats to my family. That won't ever be ok with me.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:32 pm to
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Wait until you experience civil forfeiture. "You knew the law."


At that point the law matters less than what you own and what the popo want. Nice houses, cash, and cool cars get more attention than poor people.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:32 pm to
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Sound's like the system is working

If the goal is to pay for more prisons, more cops, and more trials, while incarcerating an always growing percentage of Americans, than yeah, the system works.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:33 pm to
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Sadly though they get out on the roads and are threats to my family. That won't ever be ok with me.


Prohibition time

Should I fire up the rum runners?
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18110 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:33 pm to
His sentence is predicated on his entire criminal history, not the Instant Offense of trafficking in Marijuana. It's easy to look at it from a one crime perspective but, this offender is a career criminal when the consequences of his cumulative criminal history caught up to him.

Sentencing guidelines is why we have seen a reduction in crime over the past 30 years. They are very effective in deterring crime.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20919 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:33 pm to
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But he and you both know the laws. Choose to break them and get caught don't be surprised by the price tag.
Wait until you experience civil forfeiture. "You knew the law."
Which is why I won't experience it.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:36 pm to
You can experience it for a "rolling-stop" through a stop sign or speeding 2 mph over the speed limit. Hope you have a dashcam. Because you may not even break the law, they'll just say that you were.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:38 pm to
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he and you both know the laws. Choose to break them and get caught don't be surprised by the price tag.


You'd have been a great member of the Nazi Party
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:42 pm to
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Sadly though they get out on the roads and are threats to my family. That won't ever be ok with me.


They're doing it anyway. Prohibition is a failure.

But youreright. Let's make everything illegal that can hurt us, limit cars to 25 mph, ban guns from public places, etc and well all be a little safer.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:43 pm to
Got to love big government conservatives.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:45 pm to
Sure, but that's not the point.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:48 pm to
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How could the transaction make either a victim?


There are several possibilities. One would be a misrepresentation of the product that resulted in harm.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Sure, but that's not the point.


So then what exactly is justifying the current war on drugs?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:51 pm to
Nothing, and I'm completely against it.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:51 pm to
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You have a duty as an American to challenge unethical and unsustainable laws. Such as the atrocious and disgusting "war on drugs"


I imagine that the war on drugs would end, or at the very least ratchet down a ton, if there was no welfare state. I believe your real problem is the welfare state.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:03 pm to
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There are several possibilities. One would be a misrepresentation of the product that resulted in harm.


That's fraud, and not a voluntary transaction
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Got to love big government conservatives.


Conservatives and progressives are both violently in opposition to liberty.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:05 pm to
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That's fraud, and not a voluntary transaction


Says who?

Either way, on one end, it certainly is.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:17 pm to
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he and you both know the laws. Choose to break them and get caught don't be surprised by the price tag.


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You'd have been a great member of the Nazi Party


So if he believes that laws should be enforced until they are repealed then that makes him a Nazi?

That's bullshite, bra.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21459 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:20 pm to
I don't have an issue with this. He knew the consequences of being caught with that much weed and coke. His extensive criminal history did him no favors either. At some point you either wise up or you pay a price. Violent history or not, this guy had plenty of chances. Now he has plenty of time to think about how he threw his entire life away.
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