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re: Life w/o parole for 2.4 lbs. of weed + 104 years for 30g of cocaine: welcome to Alabama

Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:22 pm to
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Says who?

Either way, on one end, it certainly is.


On one end it's voluntary.

shite that describes every crime ever committed
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:24 pm to
And? That doesn't refute anything I've said.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:25 pm to
Voluntary on one end doesn't describe a voluntary transaction to which there is mutual agreement.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:26 pm to
I don't need it to.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:29 pm to
Well you are an extremely unique individual who definitely sees the world differently than the rest of us. You can't argue with illogical views
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:31 pm to
There's nothing illogical about it. You claimed there could be no victim. That was incorrect.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:33 pm to
Could you guys maybe just agree to disagree at this point?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:34 pm to
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There's nothing illogical about it. You claimed there could be no victim. That was incorrect.


No. I said in a voluntary transaction there is no victim. There isnt
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:34 pm to
Nah, we actually agree at the core of this. I just don't want him to frick it up again next time he's discussing it. That's how we lose.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:35 pm to
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Nah, we actually agree at the core of this. I just don't want him to frick it up again next time he's discussing it. That's how we lose.


Oh dear god.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

I said in a voluntary transaction there is no victim.


Yep, and that's wrong. The only point you had was when you moved the goalposts to include a mutual agreement.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:36 pm to
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Yep, and that's wrong. The only point you had was when you moved the goalposts to include a mutual agreement.


You're delusional. I always said it had to be a mutual agreement. What do you think a voluntary transaction entails?
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 5:40 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

There's nothing illogical about it. You claimed there could be no victim. That was incorrect.


If the drug user was supposed to use the money to pay the rent or buy their kids food and/or clothes but instead the drug user used the money to buy weed then the drug user's family members are also victims.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:38 pm to
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to agree with the SJWs on this one: If he was a white man in Alabama, then this crime would be 5 years dripping wet. There's no way that racism wasn't a factor with a non-violent drug offender.

This is ridiculous. Trump should pardon him immediately and have the judge disbarred. This is a sickening abuse of power.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:38 pm to
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Pots one thing but cocaine is on a whole different level.

You're right, cocaine is only Schedule II, while cannabis is Schedule I.

Schedule I substances are described as those that have the following findings:
1.The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
2.The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
3.There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
- Marijuana and its cannabinoids

Schedule II substances are those that have the following findings:
1. The drug or other substances have a high potential for abuse
2. The drug or other substances have currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, or currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions
3. Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.
- Cocaine: used as a topical anesthetic and to stop severe epistaxis
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:39 pm to
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Richard Bolden doesn't deny that he has made mistakes. Over his 41 years of life he has been convicted of trafficking cocaine and jumping bail and has made a series of other poor choices.

i wonder why?


I don't want to spend 50K a year imprisoning a guy on my dime for peddling weed and cocaine.

Jerry Sandusky got a more lenient sentence for God's sake.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:40 pm to
Everyone knows the schedules are all fricked up.
Eta- maybe that was your point?
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 5:42 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

I said in a voluntary transaction there is no victim. There isnt



If the drug user was supposed to use the money to pay the rent or buy their children food and/or clothes but instead the drug user spent the money on weed then the drug user's family members are victims.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:42 pm to
Yep, just like the guy that blows his rent at the bar.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:44 pm to
Ah, you have to love the war on drugs. What a money maker for the judicial system.

I'm shocked soda drinks are still legal with diabetes and obesity so rampant.

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