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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:53 am to SDVTiger
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Exactly you are the Don Lemon of this thread
Don Lemon supports losers, like you do.
SJWS and Trump cultists are two peas in a pod.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:s'all I'm sayin'
SJWS and Trump cultists are two peas in a pod.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
You support a Party that is a perennial loser
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its based on Liberty. Which trumpites loathe.
Where is my liberty when the government is taking my tax dollars and giving it to criminal illegals? Where is my liberty when my tax dollars are being used to house, educate, medicate, and raise the children of drug addicted parents? Where is my liberty when the government is taking money out of my paycheck to prop up a government sanctioned Ponzi scheme?
Don't tell me none of that would be happening if libertarians were in charge, because they aren't in charge and never will be. So not only are they not doing a damn thing to stop it, they are making it worse by pulling votes from politicians who MIGHT stop it, or at least slow it down.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:59 am to SDVTiger
Dude out here running his mouth about anyone after simping for The View.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:02 am to troyt37
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Where is my liberty when the government is taking my tax dollars and giving it to criminal illegals?
Which Libertarians support that?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Which Libertarians support that?
Jo Jorgenson the leader of your fricking party
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Which Libertarians support that?
Which ones don't? Actions speak louder than words. Rand Paul was the deciding vote on the border wall. He used the only constitutional excuse he could muster, which is congress spends the money, not the president, ignoring the fact that every president has spent millions, if not billions, if not trillions of dollars.
And where have the libertarian republicans been on rounding up the criminal illegals and deporting them? Nowhere. I can provide you some quotes for you to ignore, but you know that libertarians are for the continued invasion from the south.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:29 am to troyt37
Roger ran
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:32 am to troyt37
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Where is my liberty when the government is taking my tax dollars and giving it to criminal illegals? Where is my liberty when my tax dollars are being used to house, educate, medicate, and raise the children of drug addicted parents? Where is my liberty when the government is taking money out of my paycheck to prop up a government sanctioned Ponzi scheme?
Don't tell me none of that would be happening if libertarians were in charge
Are you trying to say this wasn't happening 2016-2020?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:36 am to SDVTiger
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Roger ran
I wish we could talk sense to these guys. There are many things about libertarian ideals that are easily better than those of the republican party. But the completely whackadoodle ones from Neptune, they will not budge on. It's maddening.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:38 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Are you trying to say this wasn't happening 2016-2020?
No. Are you trying to say libertarians weren't for open borders, and weren't taking votes and giving elections to democrats pretty much since their inception?
ETA: If I had a nickel for every time a TD libertarian told me that if it weren't for the taxpayer dollars, the criminal illegals wouldn't be coming over, I could quit my job. Well sure. If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its arse on the ground when it jumps, too.
I didn't get a single answer from a TD libertarian to my question asking how many liberals they were willing to kill to make the transfer of taxpayer dollars to illegals stop. Not one answer. And they know that's what it would take. Yet they still use it as an excuse to keep the border open, as if it is somehow a possibility.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:44 am to troyt37
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No.
Good.
You can say "if libertarians were in charge" all day, but we don't have to say "if" without them in charge.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:48 am to troyt37
quote:All of them.
Which ones don't?
Those that are open borders, are anti-entitlements.
Not every libertarian is for open borders.
My stance: I would be for open borders, if you were unable to receive taxpayer funded services without citizenship.
Until that is true, we have the duty to our taxpayers to control the borders.
Almost every Libertarian I know, holds something near that stance.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:51 am to SDVTiger
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Jo Jorgenson the leader of your fricking party
Is she now?
This thread delivers
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:53 am to troyt37
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Which ones don't?
Literally all of them.
The border issue represents EXACTLY what is wrong with the Republican Party.
They take a problem and find a big gov't solution to the problem. When the real solution is less gov't: End the War on Drugs, End the Welfare State, and End or Fix the terrible immigration system. I've actually debated over this repeatedly here and been told that it's not 'realistic' to end the Welfare State so the only solution is a dramatic increase in gov't spending, size, and scope to fix the problem.
The Republican Party is forever lost. It's time to move on.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:54 am to Roaad
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Almost every Libertarian I know, holds something near that stance.
So then almost every Libertarian you know, vehemently opposes the Libertarian Party policy, as stated below.
Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.
Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.
Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.
Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:55 am to Roaad
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Is she now?
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On May 23, 2020, Jorgensen became the Libertarian presidential nominee, making her the first woman to be the Libertarian nominee
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:57 am to troyt37
quote:Now do their stance on entitlements, WOD, etc.
So then almost every Libertarian you know, vehemently opposes the Libertarian Party policy, as stated below.
I'll wait
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