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Let me get this straight, you idiots want the gov't to control guns, healthcare,

Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:43 pm
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
4523 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:43 pm
the banking system, the environment and human behavior when that same gov't fricks up everything it touches. How does that make any sense? Just look at the last 20 years of horrible acts of murder/terror, I bet the gov't screwed up on 80% of these individuals. Evil exist and we need to hold people individually and their acquaintances accountable. Freedom and liberty come at a cost but trusting the big gov't to be your protector/daddy is misguided. I can't believe so many think the gov't is the answer for every issue; please think logically.
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:44 pm to
very brave to post that here.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:45 pm to
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very brave to post that here.

Doesn't make him wrong
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 9:46 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:48 pm to
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Let me get this straight, you idiots want the gov't to control guns, healthcare


And ironically they hate police, which is government. Liberals are nothing more than confused lemmings, waiting on their Democrat overlords to tell them what to think. Rational thought does not exist to them.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28103 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:48 pm to
Take these liberal cucks down baw! frick em!


MAGA
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36203 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:51 pm to
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please think logically.


This is the poliboard. Why would they start doing that now?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24573 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Take these liberal cucks down baw! frick em! MAGA


At this point I honestly can’t tell if people are making fun of the right or not with this type of comment
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259939 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 10:38 pm to
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And ironically they hate police, which is government


It's always been so confusing to me. In order to have BigGov and heavy regulation you've got to have a strong authoritarian enforcement agency.
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 11:16 pm to
Do you want a free for all on all these issues? Do you want only the parties who stand to make the most money to decide?

Guns. No government regulation means anyone can get them. Perhaps you can make a constitutional argument for known Islamic extremists to have free access to powerful arms.

Healthcare. Do you want unlicensed doctors? Do you want people to practice fake medicine I mean, I guess some people do? Homeopathy is a huge market. Although in defense of that 'medicine' at least it doesn't actually do anything, unlike some. If you want unregulated healthcare, look up the Percocet/oxycodone scandal and get back to me, because that's every drug in future. Oh and vaccines wouldn't exist without the special court system preventing their makers being sued into oblivion defending unprovable claims.

But really you meant health insurance not Healthcare. I'm not even gonna go there. The insurers are the biggest crooks on the planet. They're worse than the mafia. They're straight up profiting by systematically denying contractually obligated healthcare coverage, sometimes for a small period of time, sometimes permanently. In any one case you could argue the insurer had just made a mistake, it's a complex area of law, claims billing and coverage, but the more you look into it the more you realize these guys just don't give a frick. The bullshite they pull out in the open is insane, frick knows what they're actually up to that even those of us who work this stuff don't understand.

Banking system. How about we just safeguard against practices where there's a tendency to engage in them for a short term gain where if the whole sector engaged on it at the same time it could potentially frick up the whole economy? The problem isn't government intervention it's that the regulators get co-opted by the very people they were supposed to regulate.

The environment. You want more arsenic in your water? More weird bacteria?

And does the government frick up everything it touches? Really? If every case of a huge government failure I can probably point to a part of the government that wanted it to fail, be it Marco Rubio singlehandedly raising millions of premiums, the Hobby Lobby ruling or Trump refusing to sign off on Russian sanctions.
If so, why? Perhaps it's got something to do with the government's failure to regulate itself properly and fairly in the interests of all, leading to wacko primary challengers continually dragging us closer to bipolar extremes.

If Uncle Sam is a perennial frick up, it's in part because we continually allow it to exist in a model of back and forth bullshite where parties are free to change the map to suit themselves. It's because the legislative chamber is basically a giant boys club with weird little procedures the average American has no clue about - seriously, watch a few hours of your statehouse, it's fricking bizarre. The judiciary are even more wound up in their own procedural bullshite and not ground in the basics of law like the constitution - at least that's how it looks from the outside. And the executives are the easiest way to buy a piece of government - one man, veto anything.

If we're gonna take away the government's power to do anything, let's start with the power to govern how elections are divided up and run. No Democrat or Republican donors running voting machine companies. All paper ballots. - write the names of each candidate out. Allow self auditing of each vote. Want voter ID? Sure, but make sure each county has a responsibility to get an ID to every person who asks for one before primary/election ID.
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131281 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 11:19 pm to
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And ironically they hate police


they only hate local police since they act "stupidly".

they LOVE the federal police.


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