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re: Kennedy family seeks to block construction of Trump’s arch through lawsuit

Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:32 pm to
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Just curious but does the Kennedy monument also cast a shadow?
It does not.
Posted by Skee
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:42 pm to
Just ask AI
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 12:09 am to
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how does the arch unite the nation?


The idea is that memorials honor and memorialize notable events and figures of our nation and will unite people in honoring and remembering these events and figures of our nation. That is the idea behind things like the Washington Monument, the World War II Memorial, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, the Jefferson Memorial, etc etc.

This Arch is an architectural monument memorializing and celebrating the 250th Anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, the founding of our nation.

That would seem to be something that the nation would be proud of and want to celebrate and honor, although I know some people view our nation and its existence as an oppression or something not worthy of honor or celebration.

Building a monument in honor of and to memorialize and celebrate our 250th anniversary as a nation seems like an appropriate and understandable thing to do.
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 12:30 am to
Some interesting background on other monuments and memorials...

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The Lincoln Memorial

The Lincoln Memorial faced extensive political and architectural opposition for nearly a decade before construction finally began.

Key Figures and Reasons for Opposition

Speaker Joseph "Uncle Joe" Cannon: The most powerful opponent was Republican Speaker of the House Joseph Cannon, who blocked the project for nearly ten years. He famously stated: "So long as I live, I'll never let a memorial to Abraham Lincoln be erected in that… swamp".

Gutzon Borglum (Sculptor): The anticlassical sculptor Gutzon Borglum (who later carved Mount Rushmore) strongly opposed the Greek temple design. He complained to Speaker Cannon about spending millions on a "meaningless temple of three thousand years ago."

Southern members of Congress and politicians in state governments: Many influential political leaders opposed a memorial to Abraham Lincoln, who was still a controversial political figure at the time.


The Washington Monument

Yes, the Washington Monument faced significant opposition, political division, and delays over decades of debate and construction.

Opposition and hurdles took several distinct forms:

Partisan and Ideological Objections (Early 19th Century): In the early decades after George Washington's death, Democratic-Republicans (opposing the Washington-aligned Federalists) favored Thomas Jefferson and viewed monuments as unseemly, expensive, and suspiciously royalist.

The Know-Nothing Takeover (1853–1854): The privately run Washington National Monument Society was hijacked in a board election by the anti-immigrant, anti-Catholic Know-Nothing Party. Their controversial politics alienated donors and bankrupted the society. The faction also famously stole and dumped a memorial stone donated by Pope Pius IX into the Potomac River out of religious hostility.

The Civil War and Stoppages: Construction halted completely during the mid-1850s due to bankruptcy, followed by the American Civil War, leaving the monument stalled as an unfinished 156-foot stump for over 20 years. When work finally resumed under the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in 1876, Robert Mills' original grand design—which featured a massive Greek-style colonnade base and statues—was scrapped as too expensive, resulting in the plain obelisk seen today.


The Vietnam Veterans Memorial

Yes, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial faced intense opposition when its design was first revealed in the early 1980s.

The "Black Gash of Shame": Critics—including some veterans and politicians—condemned the black color and subterranean design, calling it a "black gash of shame," a "ditch," or a monument to defeat rather than honor.

Political Divisions over the War: The controversy reflected deep national scars over the Vietnam War itself, with some arguing the memorial failed to properly salute the valor of the service members while others argued against honoring participants in what was viewed by some as an immoral and unjust war of aggression,




Most people seem united in reverence of these monuments today as just and useful markers of our nation and its history.

Perhaps we should forget about the person who is President now and just consider whether honoring our nation's 250th year of existence is worthy of a monument.
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