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re: Kemp is going to throw GA to Biden.

Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Then why do you care who anyone votes for? And how is "helping Biden" if Trump doesn't need their votes? You're missing something here.


While I think Trump wins quite easily, it is still insane to me some republicans are happily cutting off their nose to spite their face.

I cannot fathom hating Trump so much that a republicans would willingly hope for Biden.
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:27 pm to
Targeted tax cuts do, if you dont grow the debt.
His cuts did not generate that kind of economic growth.



quote:

The Tax Foundation analysis stated that the tax cuts would cost $1.47 trillion in decreased revenue while adding only $600 billion in growth and savings. The plan would also:


At full employment the tax cuts didnt generate enough economic growth to cover the cost of the tax.

On top of that, Trump increased outflows.

Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:30 pm to
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At full employment the tax cuts didnt generate enough economic growth to cover the cost of the tax.

On top of that, Trump increased outflows.



Well vote for Biden then. He is doing great I have been told.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77464 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:31 pm to
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I cannot fathom hating Trump so much that a republicans would willingly hope for Biden.


When it becomes clear that they are not actually Republicans, it gets much easier to understand.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26683 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:32 pm to
Outflows..thats spending. That has nothing to do with the cuts. The cuts generated record receipts. No tax increase has done what Trump's cuts did. Nor will one.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:33 pm to
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At full employment the tax cuts didnt generate enough economic growth to cover the cost of the tax.


What costs of the cuts? Taxes are a vehicle to bring in revenue. After the cuts revenue is at all time high. You shouldn’t be accusing others of not understanding economics when you can’t grasp a concept as simple as receipts.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Modern monetary theory is a heterodox economic theory which states governments should not worry about government borrowing but be willing to aim for full employment. Full employment should be achieved through expansionary fiscal policy

[quote]MMT proponents argue that governments can spend as necessary on all desirable causes – reducing unemployment, green energy, better healthcare and education – without worrying about paying for it with higher taxes


Yalls hero.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63267 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:33 pm to
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it is still insane to me some republicans are happily cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Literally what MAGA voters have done numerous times. Hell in this thread several have said they preferred Ossof/Warnock winning over teh GOPe candidates.

Hell, MAGA electees may even cause republicans to lose control of the HofR because of their petulance.

It's kinda whataboutism to point all that out... but you seem very selective based more on support of Trump, than actual spiteful, unproducive, actions.
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I cannot fathom hating Trump so much that a republicans would willingly hope for Biden.
Nor can anyone else, because you made up the last part.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:36 pm to
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Yalls hero.


At least you graduated from wiki to Investopedia.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:36 pm to
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After the cuts revenue is at all time high.


Economic growth through debt.

Youre starting to get it.

Trumps cuts did not generate enough growth to offset the money Donny borrowed for it.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:36 pm to
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Nor can anyone else, because you made up the last part.


For you likely you aren’t rooting for Biden. For Roger….
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 3:37 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:37 pm to
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Trumps cuts did not generate enough growth to offset the money Donny borrowed for it.


Spending was bad. Tax cuts were good. You complain about cuts, which were good, and have nothing to do with spending. You whine about cuts because you are anti-trump first and foremost.
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 3:39 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:37 pm to
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o Investopedia


It would benefit you to learn the basics of economics.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:39 pm to
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It would benefit you to learn the basics of economics.


If I could buy you for how smart you actually are and sell you for how smart you think you are, I’d make as much as I did with the trump tax cut.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:40 pm to
Just vote for Biden and STFO Roger. We have heard your same ole tired ridiculous argument ad nauseum.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77464 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:40 pm to
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the cost of the tax.

Orwell would blush at your turn of phrase.

When the Treasury doesn't receive as much money in taxes, they refer to it as "tax expenditures." Conversely, if they bring in more money than expected, it's called a "tax savings."


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he tax cuts would cost $1.47 trillion in decreased revenue

Spoken like a true, big government myrmidon. Imagine being so latched to the government teat that reduced federal income is seen as as a bad thing.

SPEND LESS MONEY, ASSHOLES.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:40 pm to
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We have heard your same ole tired ridiculous argument ad nauseum.


And you still havent learned shite, still propping up the same shitty economics.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:41 pm to
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Spoken like a true, big government myrmidon


No, thats the two dudes that added 8 trillion in debt in 4 years.

Biden and Trump.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:41 pm to
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It would benefit you to learn the basics of economics.



This post is pegging the ironic meter. You absolutely should never ever chastise anyone about their knowledge of economics.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:43 pm to
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And you still havent learned shite, still propping up the same shitty economics.

Roger I have a degree in economics. I can tell that you do not. Do not argue on a subject unless you know something about it.



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