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re: Jury rules against dad trying to save his 7-year-old from gender ‘transition’

Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by DeusVultMachina
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:34 pm to
Marxist gonna marxist.

You told us what you are, idiot.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:35 pm to
Your friend is here for upvote and derailment support.

Here's your rope.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:36 pm to
I won’t comment on the studies, but

quote:

“It adds yet more evidence that sexual orientation is not a ‘lifestyle choice’.


Lulz.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:38 pm to
Hank stated unequivocably that there are infinite genders and gender fluidity is fact and that the mother in this case is "correct" to be free from arrest for child abuse for the sytematic emotional torture and ultimate chemical castration of her child.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 9:39 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:44 pm to
AggieHank says...

Sexual orientation = genetically determined

Gender = fluid

We still don’t have an explanation as to how this could be. How is gender not genetic? And if it is genetic how is it fluid.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

How is gender not genetic?


Gender does not exist. Sex is genetic. Marxists like hank created the concept of "it only matters how you feel" floating immorality. He is a moral relativist, like all marxists.

quote:

And if it is genetic how is it fluid.


Its not, this is the great lie.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:48 pm to
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I’m not going to argue the validity of those studies. Let’s just assume you are right

How is being gay genetic but one’s gender determine by society and fluid? Why wouldn’t gender be genetic and unchanging too?
I have done some reading in this area, but I do not pretend to be an expert. Hell, I came into this thread to discuss an interesting lawsuit… Not gender theory.

As I understand it, gender is much less “hard-wired” (and thus les immutable) than sexual orientation. In other words, it is less governed by genetic factors, hormonal factors, and/or factors related to the uterine environment.

In other words, I largely agree with Shorty on whether gender should be a protected class ... it should not

Of course, I also despise ALL public accommodation and all legislation of protected classes In principle, so there is that.

Posted by DeusVultMachina
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:50 pm to
Nothing is immutable to you.

We. Know. What. You. Are.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

AggieHank says...

Sexual orientation = genetically determined
My God, sometimes this place really is very much like talking to a kindergarten student with ADHD. I said nothing of the sort. I said that the factors leading to sexual orientation seem to include elements of genetics, hormones, and the uterine environment, plus certainly some effect from the external environment as well.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:55 pm to
Aggihank literally advocated for infinite genders earlier in this thread.

Go edit, bitch.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

As I understand it, gender is much less “hard-wired” (and thus les immutable) than sexual orientation. In other words, it is less governed by genetic factors, hormonal factors, and/or factors related to the uterine environment.


As far as I know none of this can be proven.

And as long as gender is fluid it should have no bearing on anything. Something that is fluid and isn’t grounded in facts shouldn’t have any weight in organizing our society.

Is race fluid? What if a white person feels like a black person inside? Should they be entitled to affirmative action?

You are smarter than this Hank, just brainwashed by “academia”
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:58 pm to
sexual orientation is much like gender, in that is is not binary and the groupings are entirely subjective
quote:

On what super secret point system do you think you gained some victory with this post?

Physical sex is a simple matter of biology and genetics. Is is essentially binary, with the exception of extraordinarily rare genetic (XXY) and/or hormonal (ADS) anomalies.

Gender roles and behaviors are largely environmental and behavioral, and there are infinite combinations across a landscape of two, thee or more dimensions/variables. it makes you feel better, in Western culture you can indeed group gender behavior and roles into two large categories which are largely co-extensive with physical sex ... thought the anomalies are far less rare than in the case of physical sex and indiiduals whose gender does not match their sex are far less rare as well.. Or you can collect them into 1000 much smaller categories. It makes no great difference to me. I will not taunt you for assigning two very large, general gender groupings to any greater extent than someone who assigns 100 of them ... though two is probably closer to a meaningful representation of the population than is 100.

And because I have no doubt that you are planning a “clever” retort, sexual orientation is much like gender, in that is is not binary and the groupings are entirely subjective away from the extreme poles.

You see this as some hilarious gotcha. I see it as simple reality.

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Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

My God, sometimes this place really is very much like talking to a kindergarten student with ADHD. I said nothing of the sort. I said that the factors leading to sexual orientation seem to include elements of genetics, hormones, and the uterine environment, plus certainly some effect from the external environment as well.


So basically you don’t know

Because that is everything that possibly could be involved and you can’t put a percentage on each category.

So we are back to just making stuff up
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:01 pm to
Just quote his own words.

He has no defense for his endorsement of gender fluid marxist theory.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

Aggihank literally advocated for infinite genders earlier in this thread.
No wonder that you are so obsessed with DB. You are his bizarro world twin.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Nothing is immutable to you.


It's interesting that this is considered an insult.

What a time to be alive.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:05 pm to
You called him back for help, cute.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:07 pm to
I quoted your own words, you sick cultural marxist freak.

Now we know why you defend child abuse.

Abundantly clear.

Keep showing the board, please.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

quote:
12 actually.

Looks like 11 actually:

quote:
With a consensus of 11 of the 12 jurors,

And while this wasn’t a criminal trial, I think this highlights his terrifying putting one’s life in hands of 12 people AND not requiring a unanimous decision could be in one. Although, there are plenty of unanimous guilty verdicts of innocent people in cases that had minimal evidence of guilt in the first place that are show that


I was including Mom
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

basically you don’t know

Because that is everything that possibly could be involved and you can’t put a percentage on each category.

So we are back to just making stuff up
I certainly do not have all the percentages memorized, and I do not care enough this evening to search them out for you. The link that I provided earlier is a good starting point.


The twin studies are fascinating. For instance, identical twins are more likely to share a sexual orientation than paternal twins. In other words, shared genetics perhaps play a greater role that I shared your environment.

Twins of either type are more likely to share a sexual orientation than non-twin siblings. In other words, factors in the uterine environment clearly play a role.

Identical twins raised in separate households are less likely to share a sexual orientation than identical twins raised in the same household. Thus, the post-birth environment also plays a role.

Exact correlations in causation are obviously difficult to compute. It is not as if science can create several thousand genetic identicals and place them in thousands of different wombs providing thousands of different environments and then study those individuals over a period of 15, 20 or 30 years. That is Mengele-level stuff. And we don’t do it. If we did, however, I feel certain that it would provide a mountain of useful information.
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