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Jones and Manchin bend the knee to Pelosi and Schiff, they want witnesses
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:46 pm
Pierre délecte is with them as well, they need 3 GOP senators to extend the trial for months.
Democrats see Trump lawyers boosting their own case for witnesses
Democrats see Trump lawyers boosting their own case for witnesses
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n their fight to win new witnesses and evidence, Democrats latched onto a line from White House deputy counsel Patrick Philbin — that “cross-examination in our legal system is regarded as the greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth.”
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“I was absolutely stunned that they would consistently say that cross-examination is the greatest engine for truth and we’re playing a shell game,” said Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.), referring to counsel Pat Cipollone’s remarks to end Saturday’s session. “It is the president that is playing that shell game and denying cross examination.”
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Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), one of the few Democrats who is not a guaranteed vote to convict the president, was more insistent on securing witnesses than ever.
“They were very clear in saying there is not one witness we’ve heard from on the prosecution’s case that they’ve made [that] has had direct contact with the president,” Manchin said. “And I’ve been saying all along: How do you have a trial without hearing from witnesses?”
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:48 pm to Northwestern tiger
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“cross-examination in our legal system is regarded as the greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth.”
This tells me Trump wants witnesses.
He's said it before but been quiet about it for a while now. His lawyers are not dumb, unlike Nadler and Schiff.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:49 pm to Northwestern tiger
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How do you have a trial without hearing from witnesses
When the prosecutors fail to provide those witnesses, the case is dismissed. The House failed, it's not the Senate's job.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:49 pm to Northwestern tiger
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Jones
Knows he’s a dead duck anyway. Might as well curry some favor with the DNC while he can.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:50 pm to Northwestern tiger
They are democrats. They will vote in lockstep. Any posturing to the contrary is a lie.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:50 pm to BuckyCheese
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He's said it before but been quiet about it for a while now
I don't think he wants witnesses. It doesn't service him well. His biggest supporters (Levin, Rush, Hannity etc..) are all against it.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:51 pm to Northwestern tiger
Manchin will get voted out if he does that
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:53 pm to Rammin TX
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Manchin will get voted out if he does that
He is not up for election until 2022 and he doesn't like being a senator. I don't think he cares much.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:53 pm to Rammin TX
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Manchin will get voted out if he does that
No he won't. He isn't up again until 2026. In March of that year he will spout some meaningless "thoughtful" "moderate" pablum and get re-elected.
His voters were too stupid this last time to realize that a vote for him is a vote for schumer. Manchin is a nobody but by God he's a vote for 95% of what Schumer wants.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:00 pm to BuckyCheese
Trump changed his mind. After watching the Schiff show, I think a lot of people did.
This Doug Jones is a POS stirring the pot doing the dems bidding; the witnesses were cross examined already and we heard them over and over in the dems time a few days ago.
If this goes on and on it helps the democrats. Bolton leaking he has nothing shows it is a nothing burger. But it could be a trap. No way in unholy hell will the WB, Schiff, Biden's, IG Atkinson show.
Graham making it public "I need four" started the dems plotting already. Graham is a POS.
This Doug Jones is a POS stirring the pot doing the dems bidding; the witnesses were cross examined already and we heard them over and over in the dems time a few days ago.
If this goes on and on it helps the democrats. Bolton leaking he has nothing shows it is a nothing burger. But it could be a trap. No way in unholy hell will the WB, Schiff, Biden's, IG Atkinson show.
Graham making it public "I need four" started the dems plotting already. Graham is a POS.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:01 pm to cajunangelle
Agreed. Shut it down and say they didn't make a prima facie case of whatever they were trying to do. The longer this drags on, the more the media spins against Trump, even if the evidence is in his favor. Let them scream there was no due process.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:03 pm to gthog61
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He isn't up again until 2026.
He was re-elected in 2018.
He is currently 72 so who knows if he will even run again in 2024. Probably will, but he's getting old.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:05 pm to gthog61
quote:Unpossible
He isn't up again until 2026
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:08 pm to cajunangelle
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No way in unholy hell will the WB, Schiff, Biden's, IG Atkinson show.
They aren’t gonna have a choice. They can plead the fifth if they’d like.
I don’t understand why y’all are scared of witnesses. If Trump is innocent and Biden is corrupt then witnesses are a dream come true for Trump.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:14 pm to DallasTiger11
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I don’t understand why y’all are scared of witnesses.
It's time for this farce to end.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:15 pm to Northwestern tiger
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they need 3 GOP senators to extend the trial for months.
Let them have it... make the dem senators sit there instead of campaigning... their presidential candidate hasn't separated themselves from the pack and the top runners will be all tied up with this bullshite they know they won't win... love it... frick dem
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:15 pm to BuckyCheese
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This tells me Trump wants witnesses.
"Don't throw me in the briar patch!"
4D Chess, right here!
Dems fall for it everytime.
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