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re: Joe Rogan takes HoRsE DeWoRmEr, beats Covid in 3 days
Posted on 9/2/21 at 2:56 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
Posted on 9/2/21 at 2:56 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Or more like the drugs will never cut transmission rates down anyway, not that we have any real way of knowing anyway.
To be clear, your suggestion is that the vaccine doesn’t decrease severity and doesn’t decrease transmission at all?
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:04 pm to crazy4lsu
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To be clear, your suggestion is that the vaccine doesn’t decrease severity
I have no idea, and I doubt anyone will ever have an idea. Which is the purpose? i.e. believe us and do what we say.
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and doesn’t decrease transmission at all?
I have no idea if the drugs are effective in the real world, and this even ignores the elephants in the room i.e. prior infections and potential new variants.
Its a cult.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:06 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
At least that’s a position.
What did you mean by this again? I remember you told me once but I can’t find the post.
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I have no idea if the drugs are effective in the real world, and this even ignores the elephants in the room i.e. prior infections and new variants.
What did you mean by this again? I remember you told me once but I can’t find the post.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:08 pm to crazy4lsu
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What did you mean by this again? I remember you told me once but I can’t find the post.
All you are doing is saying its effective without thinking of how the data is even obtained. You should be able to figure this out on your own.
Which is why I know you're cultist.
Of course, cultist like yourself have been telling 100% of the population to take a drug which has known and unknown issues for which less then 1% will ever have any real issues with anyway.
You're in a cult.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:15 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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All you are doing is saying its effective without thinking of how the data is even obtained. You should be able to figure this out on your own.
Brah, I’m on rotations right now. I’m speaking from my own experience of taking care of COVID patients, or rather presenting on COVID patients to an attending.
And I was honestly asking your position, but I guess I’ll try to find it again.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:17 pm to LSUbest
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Give me 5 years of very low possibility of transmission and we can talk about the shots being effective.
4-6 months of possibly reducing severity of disease is a therapeutic.
why 5 years, why not only 1 year, or why not 15 years, or 30? that's just your subjective opinion of effectiveness which will change to confirm wherever your bias is. a real measure of effectiveness is simply if there are statistically significant reductions in illness/severity which we see in the data.
also im not sure of any therapeutics that induce antibody production specific to a singular pathogen like vaccines are known to do, like the covid shots are known to do.
The covid shots provide antibodies (adaptive immunity). regardless of how you want to play with definitions the covid shot is a vaccine and it is effective. although your subjectivity on the issue may make you minimize that fact for some weird cognitive dissonance purpose.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:19 pm to crazy4lsu
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Brah, I’m on rotations right now. I’m speaking from my own experience of taking care of COVID patients, or rather presenting on COVID patients to an attending.
And I was honestly asking your position, but I guess I’ll try to find it again.
I have no real position, as its junk in and junk out i.e. science fiction.
My personal opinion is any doctor recommending 100% of the population get a drug with known short term effects and who knows how many unknown long-term effects as not qualified to empty my bed pan.
All you really are doing is recycling the same junk someone told you to say, its all junk at this point.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:20 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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My personal opinion is any doctor recommending 100% of the population get a drug with known short term effects and who knows how many unknown long-term effects as not qualified to empty my bed pan.
Lol.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:23 pm to crazy4lsu
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Lol.
I just hope your shift is in the janitorial arts.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:24 pm to crazy4lsu
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If we have it your way, we are never going to reach herd immunity.
If we had 100% vaccination rate, we'd never achieve herd immunity. The vaccinated still get sick, are admitted to the hospital, and even die from the disease.
We never achieved herd immunity for the cold, the flu, or several other viruses.
Destroying businesses, mandating draconian measures, and removing liberties is not warranted for such a benign pathogen.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:31 pm to LSUbest
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We never achieved herd immunity for the cold, the flu, or several other viruses.
If I’m not mistaken, you brought up herd immunity, not me.
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Destroying businesses, mandating draconian measures, and removing liberties is not warranted for such a benign pathogen.
I’ve been on the record for a long time that the lockdowns were bad, and that Fauci played pop psychologist too much with the early messaging.
It’s not a particularly benign pathogen, but that’s another discussion.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:32 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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I just hope your shift is in the janitorial arts
Lol.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 4:49 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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You are claiming it provides "immunity", the manufacturers actually stay pretty far away from all that.
Again, true of every single vaccine. So by your line of reasoning there is no such thing as a vaccine.
That doesn't strike me as a compelling stance.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 4:54 pm to jonnyanony
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Again, true of every single vaccine. So by your line of reasoning there is no such thing as a vaccine.
That doesn't strike me as a compelling stance.
This isn't complex, if they are not saying it doesn't make you immune under Laws of some States, and particular Federal Law its not a vaccine.
(Please review what I wrote about additional definitions of a vaccine)
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That doesn't strike me as a compelling stance.
If the guy wants to say its not a vaccine, he has grounds to say that... and he is even providing the portions of the Law to provide the context.
Not sure if serious at this point.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 4:56 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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If the guy wants to say its not a vaccine, he has grounds to say that... and he is even providing the portions of the Law to provide the context.
Not sure if serious at this point.
It's based on a fundamental understanding of what "immunity" is and if held to this arbitrary standard, there are no vaccines because no vaccine meets them.
I think you recognize how ludicrous that stance is.
The covid vaccines meet the criteria.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 9/2/21 at 4:57 pm to crazy4lsu
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I’ve been on the record for a long time that the lockdowns were bad
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What means? Mandates? If they decrease the severity of the disease, then they should be used - crazy4lsu
Let the dancing begin.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 4:59 pm to BestBanker
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He would have been fine without it. That’s how placebos work.
I enjoy some of your posts but man, you've got a thing going that is eating at you with the ivermectin. Just some friendly advice: Don't be that guy. It's not healthy.
Just be thankful he’s not your PCP….lol!
Posted on 9/2/21 at 5:06 pm to jonnyanony
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The covid vaccines meet the criteria.
So does water.
The gist of all this is... its junk i.e. science fiction at this point.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 9/2/21 at 5:13 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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So does water.
Except it doesn't.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 5:16 pm to jonnyanony
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Except it doesn't.
But it does. Are you seriously saying these people not getting covid and recovering from covid don't drink water.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 5:17 pm
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