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re: Job killing regulations?

Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:48 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:48 am to
He probably has no clue that regulations are hidden taxes and all of it is passed on to the consumer, HIM.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:50 am to
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What is U3 or U6?

You guys talk in code?

I do know Obama inherited the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

Trump is inheriting a much better economy that he will probably destroy.





Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:50 am to
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goodbuds

You are giving the weed smokers a bad name
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:52 am to
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If that were true, as I originally posted, than why is the unemployment rate so low?


It's "low" becuase you have record out of work people who have dropped out of the workforce from not finding work. If we had a real 4.7% unemployment, our work force participation rate wouldn't be at historic lows instead it would at least be average.

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Moreover, regulations increase jobs because companies have to hire people to help comply with those regulations


Increased regulations cost the company money that said company can't use for R&D, pay or invest.



Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15960 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:57 am to
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After 8 years of Obama's regulations, the unemployment rate is 4.7%.


Stop. This board refuses to acknowledge the amount of baby boomers leaving the work force for retirement and that more younger people who are staying in school longer for advanced degrees.

They will also ignore that the U6 (now) is in line with the U6 rate from the 90s and early 2000s under Bush
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 10:00 am
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:58 am to
It'seems not just that. They stopped counting people that just couldn't find work.

My wife was laid off and wouldn't have been counted as unemployed when she still couldn't find a job and her unemployment ran out. Of course if she would have went to work at Taco bell it would have lowered unemployment but we would have lost money in the process while Democrats cheered.

That is what idiots are cheering about with the calculations of this rate.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15960 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:04 am to
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do you even U6 bro?


do you?

Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:06 am to
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do you even U6 bro?


It took 8 years under Obama for the U3 to get to where it is.

Under any competent leadership it would have taken 2.





So you are saying that any competent president would have done better than Obama even though neither of the two candidates he beat even dreamed of getting unemployment as low as it is?

I like it better when the right is claiming the actual number is more like 40%.....
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:07 am to
Name a regulation enacted under the Obama administration that was net job killer...just one....
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:08 am to
Add another ignorant person to the thread.

Yeah and why are kids staying in school longer?

LINK
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:17 am to
Crystalline Silica Worker Safety Rule
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5509 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:18 am to
People are pulling out of the labor force and not registering as employed or unemployed. That's going up causing the umployment to fall.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:22 am to
There are countless regulation that are put in place that cost companies money that simply make no sense.

Add in DOJ under Obama going after website ADA compliance

Did you know that there are regulations that corporate websites have to be ADA compliant? No matter the content? Having a simple stock picture of 2 people having a conversation and not having a caption that there is a picture of two people having a conversation will get a company sued in this day and age.

Lawsuits do cost jobs.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:23 am to
Actually, the regs and ACA caused an explosion of part time jobs
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:37 am to
Regulations is a meaningless talking point of the Right. They have been using the term for years as a means to undermime our own government.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:39 am to
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Crystalline Silica Worker Safety Rule


Really? That is the one? WOW...

SO lets play now...how many people lost their jobs because of this regulation?


Keep in mind that it would take about 150 years at current levels for every work-site in the US to be randomly inspected and the majority of those sites which would be effected by this regulation are only work-sites effected by this regulation for about 6 months....So what is the number of jobs lost?


The cost to the construction industry, the industry impacted the most....according to the staunchest opponents to this particular bit of regulation....is 8/10000 of a percent added cost...for every $10000 spent this regulation adds 8 cents....offset that by the jobs added making and selling respirators alone and the regulation is actually a net job creator and makes air quality on construction sites more human friendly....

NEXT!!!!

Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:45 am to
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There are countless regulation that are put in place that cost companies money that simply make no sense.



I could not agree more.....you are absolutely correct and regulation should be very carefully considered and enacted.....but making blanket regulations, as has been done since the beginning of this country, is as insane as simply eliminating regulations in a blanket type fashion.

There is no doubt that there are too many regulations and that many of them are job killers and ridiculous. But there is also little doubt that there isn't need for more regulations in some areas....we need sensible regulation...all regulations should be reviewed regularly to determine their effectiveness and when they are harming an industry without helping anything they should be eliminated....and there are PLENTY of them which do just that....but simply eliminating any and all regulation because some are harmful is lazy....and, by the way, not something that even the Trump administration is proposing....but that is the message they are spreading because it plays well with the base....
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:46 am to
Cutting a companies bottom line is how jobs are lost.

With regulations like the ADA one I provided. Cost to a company to update a website to add captions to images is over 10000. Cost to not update is way more in lawsuits.

Takes employees off of their revenue generating duties to resolve.

Hell we have to analyze our companies official colors as not to offend a fricking color blind person. That's how stupid this shite is.

Add enough stupid shite like this and it adds up until the bottom line is drastically cut and layoffs occur.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:54 am to
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Cutting a companies bottom line is how jobs are lost.

With regulations like the ADA one I provided. Cost to a company to update a website to add captions to images is over 10000. Cost to not update is way more in lawsuits.

Takes employees off of their revenue generating duties to resolve.

Hell we have to analyze our companies official colors as not to offend a fricking color blind person. That's how stupid this shite is.

Add enough stupid shite like this and it adds up until the bottom line is drastically cut and layoffs occur.





I am not arguing the point that there are stupid regulations. Hell four way stops are plenty of evidence....when the rest of world simply yields to traffic coming from the right (except for the fricking brits who have to be different). The costs associated with trucks coming to complete stops when there is no oncoming traffic millions of times a day in the US would boggle the mind....yet it is a regulation we pay no attention to whatsoever. Yes, stupid regulations are ridiculous....but that is not to say that all regulations are ridiculous as many on the right do.

SO what is the odds that someone in the industry you are talking about lobbied for the regulation you are talking about to solidify their position somehow? It happens all the time....
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:09 am to
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Cutting a companies bottom line is how jobs are lost.

With regulations like the ADA one I provided. Cost to a company to update a website to add captions to images is over 10000. Cost to not update is way more in lawsuits.

Takes employees off of their revenue generating duties to resolve.

Hell we have to analyze our companies official colors as not to offend a fricking color blind person. That's how stupid this shite is.

Add enough stupid shite like this and it adds up until the bottom line is drastically cut and layoffs occur.




You or someone else mentioned the new silica rules that have been enacted as a bad thing for industry. Compare the costs to industry to the costs of the general public for things like asbestos exposure back in the day when it was known to be hazardous but ignored or coal dust or cotton dust when they were both well known to industry to be health hazards yet industry did nothing and the public picked up the health care costs for the individuals impacted while the fricking criminals who knew the havoc they were wreaking were laughing all the way to the bank. Regulations stem from such travestys and criminal activity....they are the only weapon an unsuspecting public has against unscrupulous people who have momentarily lost the ability to choose between right and wrong due to their desire to earn a profit. ANd the right would have us beleive that this is the normal ways of things....
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