re: I've never taken a guilty plea from someone who isn't guilty...

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boosiebadazz

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you do stalk me, but it's ok.

you're trying really hard, and get a gold star for effort.

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Voluntary seems to be a superfluous adjective in this context. What would constitute an involuntary interview . . . ah . . . that would be one in which Flynn was wiretapped, eh?

But I'd like to hear how the WH locale distinguishes a target's Constitutional rights. What tested case law do you have in mind?

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He's right about voluntary when it comes to Miranda. I think where it gets hairy is the assertion that Flynn wasn't aware that he was the subject of a criminal investigation and being questioned in connection with a potential crime. For all he knew, he was having an informal conversation with colleagues about legal matters relating to the transition. This is similar to the Comey memos. Its all very dishonest to say the least.

Either way, it doesn't matter now. Flynn clearly wanted this to be over. He's been flat broke since March.

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Mofo has been in the service for 40 years and don’t know you can’t lie to the FBI?

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he said today he knew it was a crime.

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It’s funny watching you cucks twist as ultimate truth comes out instead of these idiotic conspiracy theories.

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The contortions are comical. I suspect in the next few months when more indictments hit, they will get even more contorted.

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Well hotshot, as Miranda per se doesn't directly apply

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Then WTF WERE YOU ARGUING FOR THEN?

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He was not warned. He'd have been acquitted on that basis. alone

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you seem unaware of that

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YOU KNOW WHAT

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yes its completely obvious interrogating questions were asked with the whole meeting thing but whether its custodial per the crim pro caselaw, circumstances don't indicate that to me and Flynn's side of the setting and context of the interview's the only thing that matters.

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the preceding statement indicates I'm pretty well aware of what's going down, maybe you need to be more clear of what you're speaking about

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As soon as agents started asking him perjurytrap-type questions regarding conversations with Kislyak, Flynn's antennas should have gone through the roof.

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Did you read the 302? The 302 indicates the FBI tried to prompt him to answer correctly, and he didn't. Furthermore, he admitted today that he knew lying to them was a crime, and wanted to retain his guilty plea.

I agree his judgement was terrible though. He should have asked for white house counsel to be present at a minimum.

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What is not debatable is they already had the information which they were asking Flynn to recount from memory. Prompts or not, what do you suppose was their motivation for asking Flynn to detail those conversations?

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To try to suss out what happened. Even if they had recorded some of the conversation, they lacked context around the recordings. Or they may not have recorded the conversations instead relied on SIGINT captured of russians talking about the conversation.

After 9/11, I was interviewed by the FBI over some documents that they requested from the firm where I was employed.

They could read the documents and get the answers from the documents. It was pretty humdrum type of stuff, in fact, we didn't know why they wanted the documents atll.

Yet they sat me down and had me go over the documents with them. Not only did they ask me about hte documents, they asked me the same questions multiple times. I did what mr flynn didn't though. I asked our GC to be present, and I told the truth.

They are pretty thorough in my experience.

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Based on McCabe's initial premise for the conversation, he had no idea that was necessary.

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Flynn is an idiot and lacks judgement.

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He should have realized very early on what game was afoot though.

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He lied to obama
He lied to the feds
he lied to pence
he lied to the pubic

He is a liar. He lies. This is what he does. He could have avoided this particular set of problems by not lying but he chose to lie.

That’s what I don’t get, in the 302 he made statements as to knowing that they knew the substance of the calls, thanks for the reminder, etc, so why lie?

ETA NM, already discussed.

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Well there was the admission by McCabe that they essentially threatened Flynn over bringing in counsel, that it would be escalated up the DOJ chain

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That indicates he still had a choice in the matter though, could've retained WH Counsel at a minimum or he could've told McCabe to frick off with that condition. Look I'm not defending McCabe in anyway though, I think he's a total POS who broke the law by leaking, kept attempting re-entry into the Hillary Clinton investigation after recusing himself November 1, 2016, and violated the Hatch Act regarding his wife's campaign and all the donations regarding Clinton allies and the circumstances surrounding this interview are murky but thats the fine line for the difference between a custodial and non-custodial interrogation, you could argue it both ways I feel. Should've exercised better judgment in my view though, especially with all those perjury trap questions they were asking and stuff.