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Posted on 3/29/14 at 3:45 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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No you were incorrect in your previous post when you said "nobody" wanted these girls, you realize that right?
Please reference my previous post where I said "nobody" wanted these girls.
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Absolutely. As long as people are peacefully assembling in a non violent manner on public property, I have absolutely no qualms. You see, I'm for freedom whether I personally agree with the cause or not. Judging by your posts, I know that may sound strange to you.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 3:59 pm to son of arlo
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Please reference my previous post where I said "nobody" wanted these girls.
My bad, you're right. You never said "nobody" wanted them. You said:
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why I would object to "shaming" an org into taking someone the whole group didn't want.
The "whole group didn't want" them?
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:00 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:Generalities are what they are. The only locale where I've personally seen common racism was in the Detroit area.
Northerners say the same thing about Southerners.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:01 pm to Scruffy
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Football recruits don't give a crap about this.
They are looking at how playing for a certain school may affect their future.
You are gullible as hell if you think players would pass up playing for Saban because of this.
I'm not saying every football player does, but I have a feeling that Urban Meyer or Brady Hoke if they are going against Nick for a black recruit from Ohio would have no problem letting him be aware of this.
Plus in reality, Nick has to hate stuff like this making any type of news. Nick would gladly like to not have to plan on what to say if a parent brings this up with Nick.
Plus anything that hurts Alabama football is fine with me.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:02 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
This won't be a zit on Alabama football's arse.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:04 pm to Jbird
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This won't be a zit on Alabama football's arse.
Urban Meyer will do anything and it could work with a kid from Ohio or PA. Urban Meyer is the most negative recruiter out there and negative recruiting must work out okay from him.
But like I said, anything that causes Nick stress or problems is fine with me. Let Alabama look bad about this.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:06 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:Yeah and they could get free tattoos in Columbus, this isn't going to sway one single football recruit.
Urban Meyer will do anything and it could work with a kid from Ohio or PA
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:07 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:Kiffin is the most negative. Saban is close. Now they are both on the same staff.
Urban Meyer will do anything and it could work with a kid from Ohio or PA. Urban Meyer is the most negative recruiter out there and negative recruiting must work out okay from him.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:11 pm to Jbird
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Yeah and they could get free tattoos in Columbus, this isn't going to sway one single football recruit.
I dunno about that. It's not as obvious, but the Confederate symbolism at Ole Miss works against them in recruiting.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:14 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:Sure it very well might be the case. I am just saying if you are going to turn down going to Alabama because of this, well than I am guessing you weren't that committed to the Tide to begin with.
I dunno about that. It's not as obvious, but the Confederate symbolism at Ole Miss works against them in recruiting.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:17 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Its official U of Alabama is racist
Reverse racists be so dumb!
go head...admit it...you hate whitey.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:21 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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I dunno about that. It's not as obvious, but the Confederate symbolism at Ole Miss works against them in recruiting.
Exactly! If the confederate symbolism wasn't a problem they would still be flying the confederate battle flag in the stadium.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:22 pm to Jbird
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Sure it very well might be the case. I am just saying if you are going to turn down going to Alabama because of this, well than I am guessing you weren't that committed to the Tide to begin with.
Fine with me. Let's hope more recruits feel that way about Alabama because of this. They can go to LSU instead.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:26 pm to NC_Tigah
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Kiffin is the most negative. Saban is close.
I think a lot of them have different approaches depending on the recruit.
We had a player about 10 years ago who said a major factor in his decision was that NTP was the only coach who didn't use negative recruiting.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:37 pm to son of arlo
quote:How many UA sororities were all-white prior to this 2013-14 academic year?
That's correct. The alum of this particular silly sorority were not shamed into accepting some young lady they didn't approve of whether the reasons were skin color, family tree, car she drove, the way she dressed, hair color or complexion.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:49 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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My bad, you're right.
Hooray! We're makin' some progress on the Poli Board!
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The "whole group didn't want" them?
Alas, you have to spoil it with some petty quibbling.
Semantics aside, do you understand what I meant about the shaming? People aren't like a dog that laid a turd in the living room. You can shame someone, and even though you're right and they agree with you, they'll resent it. It's better to lead a horse to water, and then let him take a drink when he's ready.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 5:06 pm to son of arlo
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do you understand what I meant about the shaming?
Yes, I fully understand what you meant, I just disagree with your take.
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People aren't like a dog that laid a turd in the living room. You can shame someone, and even though you're right and they agree with you, they'll resent it. It's better to lead a horse to water, and then let him take a drink when he's ready.
This fairy tale you live in must be great. But in the real world, lets say there is a person who, for example, absolutely hates Asians, thinks they are the scum of the Earth and will never allow them in his place of business. I am NOT for govt doing anything about it or punishing him. I AM for people picketing, calling the local news station, and bad-mouthing him on social media in order to spread the word about his views.
You think thats "wrong?" You would prefer a sit down intervention where everybody hugs and talks about their feelings, while trying to get this guy to change his views about Asians?
Posted on 3/29/14 at 5:08 pm to son of arlo
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People aren't like a dog that laid a turd in the living room. You can shame someone, and even though you're right and they agree with you, they'll resent it.
certain behaviors need to be marginalized before change can occur though.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 5:20 pm to NC_Tigah
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How many UA sororities were all-white prior to this 2013-14 academic year?
I have no clue, and there's not an issue lower on my list than what the racial makeup of some frat/sorority happens to be.
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