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Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:10 pm to DiamondDog
quote:makes a man want to go out in Jerusalem and follow the Israeli custom of spitting on Christians - how about you?
The Lord's promise to Israel is still coming true. He said He would never forget them even when they forgot Him.
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:13 pm to Champagne
quote:Where's Scofield when you really need him? Rock out, Cyrus Scofield!
So we should be praying for Israel to be conquered, so that God's Word can be fulfilled.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:48 pm to FriendofBaruch
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makes a man want to go out in Jerusalem and follow the Israeli custom of spitting on Christians - how about you?
I know it’s purely anecdotal, but I’ve been to Jerusalem several times as a Christian pilgrim, and the only person who has ever been rude to me was a young Muslim man on the Temple Mount.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 10:08 pm to FriendofBaruch
You can disagree and that is fine. I have no animosity towards Israel. That is the Lord's people and He will deal with them how He sees fit.
Do I agree with everything they do? Likely not.
But that is one people I would not trifle against. It's the only nation the Lord himself takes an attack on as an attack upon Himself. They are his people.
They were decimated, scattered, thrown about, reconstituted and still thriving.
If you don't see the Lord's hand on that nation, you are willfully blind to reality.
Do I agree with everything they do? Likely not.
But that is one people I would not trifle against. It's the only nation the Lord himself takes an attack on as an attack upon Himself. They are his people.
They were decimated, scattered, thrown about, reconstituted and still thriving.
If you don't see the Lord's hand on that nation, you are willfully blind to reality.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 10:31 pm to DiamondDog
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But that is one people I would not trifle against. It's the only nation the Lord himself takes an attack on as an attack upon Himself. They are his people.
They were decimated, scattered, thrown about, reconstituted and still thriving.
If you don't see the Lord's hand on that nation, you are willfully blind to reality.
I was willing to let this go until the blindness jab
"The Lord Himself" is a complete fabrication, speaking of blind to reality. The "God" of the Abrahamic religions is a bogus stream of heavy-duty lies and that is all it has been for the last 10,000 years.
Why is it always men speaking to you when you hear the intention, declaration, or presence of God. Let that God speak on his own. If omniscient, then it should be a running joke how easily it gets done - hint: it has never gotten done.
So no, there is only wistful fabrication or digestive gas that you observe when you have to speak for the omniscient.
Same with the Israelis you seem to bestow great honor - again, why hasnt God spoken about it - why does he have to have captive men to ALWAYS ALWAY ALWAYS speak for him. Some God!
and another little secret - the Israelis are not the people you think they are - though it wouldnt matter you would still have to speak for your omniscient all powerful..
Now before you go all silly mad - I do think that there is a God - (unlike the Abrahamic god nonsense) and it is nothing like you can currently fathom. The universe in which we matriculate is quite obviously a creation or something along the lines of what our brains can think of like "creation"
Lots more - but why waste it on the truly blind . Just familiarize with what Baruch di Spinoza has to say about this. That God doesn't trifle with the matters of men as spoken by men for men, like yours, because he can't talk.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:33 pm to Champagne
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So we should be praying for Israel to be conquered, so that God's Word can be fulfilled.
Got it.
No, but God's will still must come to pass, Jesus prayed for God to take the cup from him (his sacrifice on the cross) but nevertheless THY WILL BE DONE. So, if Jesus had not died for us we would all still be hopless.
Likewise, The 70 weeks is a punishment against Israel because the rejected God and served false gods over and over. It was really only 70 years of captivity in Babylon, but many Jews wanted to stay in Babylon and serve their gods, they never repented, so as Leviticus laws require, if you continue in your sin it will be TIMED BY 10 (look it up) so that is how the 70 years multiplied into 70 x 7.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:39 pm to Champagne
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So we should be praying for Israel to be conquered, so that God's Word can be fulfilled.
Got it.
No, but God's will still must come to pass, Jesus prayed for God to take the cup from him (his sacrifice on the cross) but nevertheless THY WILL BE DONE. So, if Jesus had not died for us we would all still be hopless.
Likewise, The 70 weeks is a punishment against Israel because the rejected God and served false gods over and over. It was really only 70 years of captivity in Babylon, but many Jews wanted to stay in Babylon and serve their gods, they never repented, so as Leviticus laws require, if you continue in your sin it will be TIMED BY 10 (look it up) so that is how the 70 years multiplied into 70 x 7.
Jesus was to die after the 69th week (483rd year) and then God rent the temple, deserted Israel, called them Dead Men's Bones, and they remained Dead unto God as a Nation until 1948. Now they are back together as a Nation BUT........with no breath in them (Holy Spirit) thus they have to be CRUSHED in order to repent, we the church will not be here to pray fir them tbh. They are the Wheat, which has to be crushed to be sifted, we are the Barley first fruits which can be harvested without being crushed. The word Tribulation in Greek came from a machine used to harvest Wheat called the Tribulum.
The point you made was in error, they will be conquered again, or either God is a liar. So, you dodged that bad miss by asking a question, should I pray fir Israel to be conquered? Guess what if that is what saves 1/3 or 5 million Jews then YES you should pray for God's PERFECT WILL to be done because He knows the beginming from the end we don't.
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