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re: Israel First and Israel Government trying to kick JD Vance off of GOP ticket

Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

Didnt he post that he was like a raging alcholic and needed meds



quote:

SDVTiger



didn’t you post that you voted for Obama twice?
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
1759 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:34 pm to
What a thoughtful and informative response. That’s why you’re losing Mr. Levin.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:35 pm to
Your post is Arabic for “correct”
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
1759 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:41 pm to
You call people that disagree with an Israel First agenda “leftists” and “antisemites”, yet the irony is completely lost on your simple mind by not understanding that YOU are the one sounding left of the aisle because THEY label anyone that disagrees with them as “Nazi’s” or “racists”. lol

But carry on!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:43 pm to
Yea you just made that up but that’s typical of your kind. Ignorant, useful idiot who got fish hooked by a propo operation and is too lazy or prideful to educate themselves.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:45 pm to
Unsubstantiated word salad. You sound like a Democrat giving a campaign speech haha
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:46 pm to
lol another learned. simpleton tactic you picked up watching bro debates. fricking clown world
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
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1759 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:48 pm to
Please. Educate me then. Educate me on how your obsolete, 20th century worldview where we put our monetary priorities towards a tiny country thousands of miles away is somehow good for the United States that is trillions in debt and flailing as an empire.
Explain that to me, Mossad Bro.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:50 pm to
You’re gonna keep making shite up so don’t lie and pretend you’re interested in learning something. Go back to your leftist funded rage podcasts where you’ve been educated by con artist and morons.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:00 pm to
lol. Swing and a miss. NPC alert!
You literally had the opportunity to rationally explain your position but instead all you can do is screech and howl and insult. You really remind me of that con artist Levin.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:01 pm to
Lmfao, why am I not surprised you’re also dishonest. Thanks for confirming my characterization of your kind. Saves time
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 11:02 pm
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
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1759 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:01 pm to
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Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
264 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:44 pm to
Deltaland, this was a great post. Thank you for all this information.

What did you read to learn all this? I’ve asked Grok about 50 questions about the Jews to better understand them and the religion. They seem to be the ultimate enigma. I cannot get answers on anything, certainly none like yours.

Thanks again.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162946 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 7:03 am to
Study the OPs posts of: Lily West

I am stuck in the middle of this divide. But we can't bury our heads in the sand to Israel v. Qatar. Look at her posts she despises Tucker, Megyn Kelly, Fuentes, and so on.

I think we are watching an early ugly primary fight and DeSantis has found his only way back into the fold. Why would they like Trump and not Vance?

If you break down the upcoming primary fight of 2028, many don't like hearing this...But DeSantis voting for no abortion past 6 weeks and Vance's abortion stance nationally is unknown-like it or not-they both may lose the rustbelt on this issue.

DeSantis emptying out Fla of even non criminal illegals will be sketchy for him running for President. Abortion is a States right issue and Trump is done with it. Other R's running may not see it this way.

So even if the issue is hammered out and Vance can hang on to Trump's coalition. This Israel v. Qatar fight won't go away. I think it is sleazy way for DeSantis to re enter.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/9/25 at 7:17 am to
Lily doesn't seem to be one opinion. It seems to be a way to get DeSantis in the mix. Why doesn't Lily or others like JD Vance?

I have a question to try to understand this divide. I agree with Trump not fighting with Qatar. He isn't stupid. Peace in the ME came from this leadership.

Does Qatar condemn Mamdani? Does Qatar denounce Hamas and Hezbollah? SA does a good job not OUTRIGHT supporting their radicals. {911 and Bin-Laden) What about Qatar?

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162946 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 7:58 am to
@Grok
quote:

No, Qatar does not condemn Zohran Kwame Mamdani (the recently elected mayor of New York City, often referred to simply as "Mamdani" in recent political discourse). On the contrary, Qatari officials, journalists, and state-aligned media have openly celebrated his victory as a major success tied directly to the impact of Hamas's October 7, 2023, attack on Israel.

memri.org

Qatari journalists and Al Jazeera presenters attributed Mamdani's win to the "Al-Aqsa Flood" (Hamas's name for the October 7 massacre), describing it as a perceptual shift weakening Israel and boosting anti-Israel movements globally.

memri.org

For example:Qatari journalist Abdullah Al-Amadi called it "one of the outcomes of the Al-Aqsa Flood."
Al Jazeera figures shared posts linking the victory to October 7's role in energizing pro-Palestine activism.

Additionally, Qatar has deep financial and promotional ties to Mamdani's family:His mother, filmmaker Mira Nair, received millions from Qatari state-funded institutions (overseen by Sheikha Al-Mayassa bint Hamad Al-Thani, sister of Qatar's emir) for films and projects since 2009.

dailymail.co.uk

The sheikha actively promoted Mamdani's campaign on social media, sharing favorable polls and emojis.

derechadiario.com.ar

Qatar congratulated him post-election, with officials and media hailing it as a blow to "Zionists."

hindustantimes.com +1

When Qatar's Prime Minister was questioned about links to Mamdani, he dismissed it as "not our business," without condemnation.

youtube.com

Far from condemning him, Qatar views Mamdani's rise as aligned with its interests, including support for Hamas (which it hosts and funds) and broader Islamist influences.

jcpa.org

Critics (e.g., MAGA figures like Laura Loomer) have highlighted this as evidence Qatar is no U.S. ally, but Qatar itself shows only enthusiasm.

hindustantimes.com

(Note: If the query refers to Mahmood Mamdani, Zohran's father—a Columbia professor—there is similarly no evidence of Qatari condemnation; he has worked in Qatar and appeared on Al Jazeera.


Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:05 am to
Patrick Bet-David had an interesting take when Greenwald was on his show. He says Israel is kind of an only child in the middle east who has always gotten what they want and Trump is using other countries like Saudi, Qatar, and UAE to keep them in check. I don't necessarily agree that this works with Saudi as they are kind of in bed with Israel, but it makes sense with Qatar. Not sure about UAE.

JD seems shrewd on Israel issues, like he knows support is not popular, so will just lay low. But, in the end, he will support them like all others. But, it's smart of Ron to pound him on this and act like he supports terrorists and is not strong enough on the issue, even though I think it's kind of a sleazy approach by Ron or Marco.

I thought it was really smart of Ron to wade into the H1B subject. That is where he can make his mark with America First.
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 8:20 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162946 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:28 am to
I agree with all that. Trump dances on a fine end of a pin with both to bring peace. It seems Lily and Jewish people see this. So why don't they give JD the same grace?

It is sleazy of Marco and DeSantis. More wise for DeSantis. If I had to choose I'd pick DeSantis over Rubio. Rubio was on the gangof8 for all the ops against Trump.

ETA: JD has the evangelical vote locked up (CK) so DeSantis has nothing else but immigration.
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 8:34 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162946 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:53 am to
Did gumbopot take a break? He was fair-minded and wanted to just discuss this.

I don't think we should be afraid to discuss this- jew haters gonna hate to any discussion of Israel v. Qatar.

tCTH SD, was correct- that this is what we are watching-Qatar v. Israel.

Will it divide bigly, or just form into a natural ugly 2028 primary of infighting? The ignorant ones that denounce Jews are plain ignorant. Move on...Realize Qatar sponsors terrorism but it shouldn't be our fight.

We can still support Israel and not completely kiss their asses, and realize BiBi is no saint and neither was former PM Ehud Barak.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:55 am to
I think Gumbo and Seldom Seen may have been put on the bench. I got a final warning on this subject a month ago, so am trying not to say much. But, there are some people saying really inflammatory things, even from my perspective. So, it's a difficult subject.
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 8:56 am
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