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re: Is Trump the cleanest rich guy/Billionaire of all time?

Posted on 8/2/20 at 12:39 am to
Posted by HighDesert43
SE Idaho
Member since Apr 2020
190 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 12:39 am to
Except for the part where he raped a 13-year-old girl.
Posted by Philip Heruterus
Beyond Dirk Island
Member since Aug 2013
114 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 12:42 am to
quote:

Ad hominems are my all-time favorite.


Here i will add another Ad Homo-nem attack for you


Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:09 am to
I suppose this alleged simpleton Trump juked ya'll yet again eh? And on something so large, undoubtedly with a healthy amount of loose ends that would sink the offender, leaving a trail right back to yalls' big dummy, the one with cognitive impairment and mental disabilities. And the million people who furiously dig for something to stick on Trump every day of their lives just couldn't come up with anything on that either.

Nah, all that being the case, it's an unimpeachable fact that you, whoever you are, are distinctly more likely to have raped a child in your care than did the titanic public personality Donald Trump. I realize that's rather unsettling, but unfortunately that's the hand dealt. It's a pretty nasty thing to casually throw around, so it needed some attention IMO.

But beyond all of the foregoing, I wish you luck in the search for the enlightenment necessary to demonstrate the flawed nature of your thought processes. I mean that in as positive a way possible.
Posted by Canada_Baw
Member since Dec 2017
2044 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:52 am to
shite, I forgot about Al Capone; guess I better vote for Biden?
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:00 am to
Pretty amazing. In fact it's sort of shocking. Likely goes back to his parents. And he appears to have brought up his children in the same fashion.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:07 am to
nope, not even close

And that is discounting every single thing since he decided to run for POTUS, he aint a horrible person it seems but he is no saint either.

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:29 am to
Is he an innocent (or guilty, as the case may be) man though, of any crimes I mean? And I'm not talking about what Tom Dick and Harry gossip about from the viewpoint of their armchairs, or what Karen claims on Facebook, or what Rachel accuses him of by words only on cable news. I'm mean found guilty of or pled guilty to a crime, however serious or minor.

I'm not aware of any, and beyond that I'm actually only aware of one affair that was undeniable. Sorry, I won't count Stormy given the evidence I'm aware of. Other than that discrepancy, what brings about legitimate question as to his credibility or character?
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 4:34 am
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:34 am to
He is a NY developer, there is 0% chance he is innocent of all crimes, it is what it is

No one GAF about affairs but he has had a pretty rich history of fricking over workers.

See first statement, it is part of the territory.

The issue is everyone wants to deal in absolutes when we live in a grey world, he can be ok and not be the cleanest ever at the same time.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:49 am to
I smell what you're cooking on that. And I agree, absolutes are the rare exception, not the rule. But in so agreeing, I have to point out this absolute:
quote:

there is 0% chance he is innocent of all crimes, it is what it is

Again, I do get you, but one part I'd take issue with is using the term crime. Being as there as much or more chance such a violation(s) could be civil in nature, there's just not enough there for me to assume crime, somewhere at some point. I mean, some people take great pride in never having been ok the hook for any crime, and I can't take that away from a person on assumption alone.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:51 am to
You are a pathetic wretch who should be euthanized. You are NOT a real American.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42580 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 6:00 am to
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he's a fricking filet compared to the clown in office


Provide ONE - just ONE - example to substantiate that remark.

I too do not like Trump's persona - would not want his as a son-in-law, neighbor, or close friend - because I cannot stand narcissists.

HOWEVER, I would crawl naked over broken glass to stop a bullet meant for him from virtue signaling asshats like you.

My vote for Trump in '16 was wholly and completely a vote to keep THE Mose corrupt and mendacious politician in my memory from getting elected - HRC is a vile, evil, more unlikely woman who should NEVER hold an office of trust in the USA.

Just like Biden should never be given any sort of political power that he would stupidly hand off to the DEMOCRAT cult.

A vote for Biden (or any DEMOCRAT of the past decade is a vote to overturn THE most effective nation for securing freedom, liberty, and prosperity for the entire world.

SO - give us all ONE example of just how bad Trump is in executing the powers of the Presidency

Just ONE

PLEASE - one example PLEASE
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 6:04 am to
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nope, not even close

And that is discounting every single thing since he decided to run for POTUS, he aint a horrible person it seems but he is no saint either.




You are too fricking stupid to understand the God damned point
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 6:13 am to
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You are too fricking stupid to understand the God damned point


If you and the OP were too busy sucking each other off to align the point with the question asked don't blame me.

Simply suck less cock, it would do you a world of good.
Posted by badlands
Member since Apr 2008
2313 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 6:15 am to
Bitch
Posted by uppermidwestbama
Member since Nov 2014
2097 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 6:40 am to
1: Cheated on wives

2: Remember the Trump University thing?

3: Hasn't paid taxes in over 20 years (legally on the back end, but not everything likely legal on the front end....labor laws, zoning laws, etc).

I'm sure there are financial crimes.

Clean? No, don't be so stupid people.

Evil? No.

Posted by uppermidwestbama
Member since Nov 2014
2097 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 6:45 am to
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Trump won’t release the returns for the simple reason that it drives the left insane, they can’t do a damn thing about it, and he loves it.


That isn't the reason.

There are more than 500 entities in the Trump Organization. The IRS gets the back end of the paperwork, not the front end where the stuff happens. If things are not caught on the front end, then the IRS will not find it.

You don't realease your taxes publically if you don't people to know how many years you haven't paid taxes (he is a real estate guy and hasn't paid taxes in over 20 years), don't want people to know your actual income, your charitable donations, and giving access to documents that can be tracked back through business dealings and documents. You aren't going to know who the vendors are and the contracs on labor and the like from a tax filing, but it can be traced back through various avenues and laws (investigations).

Posted by paul02085
Shelby, Al (Lay Lake)
Member since Sep 2006
1325 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 6:59 am to
President Trump is by far the greatest president we have ever had. In my opinion his most impressive act has been to totally expose the marxists and their minions (ie schools,media-social and msm etc)
What we are seeing now is happening because they have been exposed and cannot implement their marxist system subtly as they had been for decades.
Preisdent Trump deserves all the credit for bringing this out in the open.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42580 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 7:14 am to
quote:

You aren't going to know who the vendors are and the contracs on labor and the like from a tax filing, but it can be traced back through various avenues and laws (investigations).


SO - you want to do another witch hunt through mountains of documents, trace back the 'intentions' of anyone mentioned in those document, from past decades in order to weave some sort of 'illegality' that may be interpreted to have occurred as the basis of another baseless attack on the President.

In other words, unless Trump has been a perfect saint - never having come close to the current ever-liquid lines of "wokeness."

I think you are suggesting that Trump should never have engaged in the construction business in NYC - because the DEMs have made the rules there as to how it can be allowed to succeed. You would rather that Trump had devoted his attention to running a lemonade stand in his own neighborhood while some even more sinister, evil - but DEMOCRAT fat-cat feathered his own nest instead. (actually Trump WAS accepted by all the DEMOCRAT fat-cats in NYC until he committed the unpardonable sin of running for POTUS as a REPUBLICAN.)
Posted by uppermidwestbama
Member since Nov 2014
2097 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 7:23 am to
quote:

SO - you want to do another witch hunt through mountains of documents, trace back the 'intentions' of anyone mentioned in those document, from past decades in order to weave some sort of 'illegality' that may be interpreted to have occurred as the basis of another baseless attack on the President.

In other words, unless Trump has been a perfect saint - never having come close to the current ever-liquid lines of "wokeness."

I think you are suggesting that Trump should never have engaged in the construction business in NYC - because the DEMs have made the rules there as to how it can be allowed to succeed. You would rather that Trump had devoted his attention to running a lemonade stand in his own neighborhood while some even more sinister, evil - but DEMOCRAT fat-cat feathered his own nest instead. (actually Trump WAS accepted by all the DEMOCRAT fat-cats in NYC until he committed the unpardonable sin of running for POTUS as a REPUBLICAN.)


Most in this thread, heck, this website, will not understand what you can learn from a tax filing and what you can't and the limits to what the IRS will know.

Trump was getting paid through 96 different LLC's. It's the smart thing to do. But it's rather niave to think nothing illegal didn't go down that he doesn't want people to trace back through Schedule E, etc.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 7:33 am to
So relying on your experience, whatever it may be, and whatever level of knowledge you have of Trump's audit specifically.....exactly what did the IRS receive from Trump, and what was as you say withheld "on the front end"?
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