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re: Is this too harsh? Georgia couple receive long sentences for verbal hate crime
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:23 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:23 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
This same judge has probably sentenced numerous people to far less time who have committed crimes like armed robbery, burglary, involuntary manslaughter or assault and battery where the victims suffered actual physical injury.
Nobody in this case was physically harmed and I believe his sentence to be absurdly harsh. Send them to jail yes but not for decades.
Nobody in this case was physically harmed and I believe his sentence to be absurdly harsh. Send them to jail yes but not for decades.
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:27 pm to RollTide1987
You can rape a child and get lessome years then this. This seems extreme.
If the shotgun part is true give them some gun crime. Couple hundred hours of community service and ban them from the county. Maybe 30 days in jail, i dunno.
If the shotgun part is true give them some gun crime. Couple hundred hours of community service and ban them from the county. Maybe 30 days in jail, i dunno.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:30 pm to RollTide1987
quote:For hate speech? We don't have hate speech crimes in the US. WTF?
20 years, with 13 served in prison, and Norton was given 15 years with six to serve in prison
quote:This is preposterous. Not legal by any stretch.
Upon their release, the two have been barred from Douglas County.
This story smells like bullshite.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:31 pm to bhtigerfan
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For hate speech?
No. The man had three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and two other counts, one related to making terroristic threats and one related to Georgia's anti-gang law.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:32 pm to Pinecone Repair
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This seems excessive given that rapists and murderers get less time.
Shitty and trashy but sentences seem extreme.
their sentence isn't the problem ... the sentence for rapists and murderers is the problem ...
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:34 pm to crazy4lsu
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The man had three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and two other counts, one related to making terroristic threats and one related to Georgia's anti-gang law.
Yeah...and its all for the same act.
We all know about over-charging in America. Its a bargaining chip for the State.
You push someone over in a chair and you got charged with 5 crimes.
That's America for you. Every act of every crime is in itself a crime.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:36 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I agree, but I was just pointing out that the thread made it seem like the sentence was directly related to the hate speech, when I would argue that it has more to do with brandishing the shotgun.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:39 pm to crazy4lsu
There were two other participants in these incidents and they received respective sentences of 2 and 4 years.
This judge is off his rocker. Citing the Dylan Roof case is further proof of it. These are people who made a very bad decision, but no one was physically harmed. Now multiple children will be spending their formative years without one or more parents. I'm sure they'll be perfectly normal.
In a situation like this, give them a little time in jail, hang a bunch of time over their heads if they can't successfully complete a stiff probation and be productive citizens. This judge has done more harm than good in trying to look tough on crime and appease the black community. I wonder if he's seeking further political office.
This judge is off his rocker. Citing the Dylan Roof case is further proof of it. These are people who made a very bad decision, but no one was physically harmed. Now multiple children will be spending their formative years without one or more parents. I'm sure they'll be perfectly normal.
In a situation like this, give them a little time in jail, hang a bunch of time over their heads if they can't successfully complete a stiff probation and be productive citizens. This judge has done more harm than good in trying to look tough on crime and appease the black community. I wonder if he's seeking further political office.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:43 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Okay, but I think the sentences are a little harsh. No one was physically harmed.
No. The man had three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and two other counts, one related to making terroristic threats and one related to Georgia's anti-gang law.
quote:This is bullshite. I've never ever heard of someone being barred from a county after serving a sentence. Cannot be legal.
Upon their release, the two have been barred from Douglas County.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:44 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:They don't have a hate crime statute. They were charged as a street gang, but the other people were given far lighter sentences. Apparently they were going around for a couple days too
For hate speech? We don't have hate speech crimes in the US. WTF?
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Assistant District Attorney David Emadi detailed how the group had gone on a drunken, two-county rampage in pick-up trucks laden with Confederate battle flags through Paulding and Douglas counties on July 24 - 25, 2015.
quote:I mean maybe the sentence is exteme, but if BLM or some Muslim group went around targeting black people or Christians like that, would people be as outraged with the sentence?
Emadi said the group threatened African-American motorists, yelled at them and walked up to one of their cars with a gun. They also threatened African American shoppers at a Paulding County Walmart and at a convenience store.“
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:44 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Basically the judge gave these two the absolute maximum he could statutorily give.
Good.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:44 pm to RollTide1987
Hmmmm... If this is true, it will be overturned. Something seems off here.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:47 pm to buckeye_vol
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but if BLM or some Muslim group went around targeting black people or Christians like that, would people be as outraged with the sentence?
BLM? Seriously? Members that claim to be a part of their group have said much worse without even being arrested. Should these people have gotten charges of harassment? Sure.
Regardless, this will be overturned.
ETA: And yes, I would be outraged if BLM members or Muslims were arrested for speech.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:48 pm to crazy4lsu
Way too long. Ridiculous
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:49 pm to AUsteriskPride
quote:So you think that "death threats" are protected speech, expecially in this case, when there is a firearm involved?
ETA: And yes, I would be outraged if BLM members or Muslims were arrested for speech.
Because that's the "speech" that got them arrested.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:52 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Something is missing here.
Teeth.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:53 pm to PsychTiger
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That's why I don't mind the Confederate flag, it lets me know people and places to avoid.
I think you borrowed a comedian's line.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:57 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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Not if your a liberal senator from Massachusetts you dont.
He didn't murder her. She drowned.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:58 pm to tiderider
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their sentence isn't the problem ... the sentence for rapists and murderers is the problem ...
I think their sentences seem extreme *and* rapists and murderers sentences are too light.
Why not force these people to preform community service,and pay fines rather than add them to our enormous prison pop?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:58 pm to Bullethead88
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He didn't murder her. She drowned
Wow.
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