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Is H1-B importing the wrong people from Asia?
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:58 am
Would minds change if H1-B brought in more Chinese, Korean, or people from the Philippines?
How about more Snow Mexicans from Canada?
How about more Snow Mexicans from Canada?
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 9:12 am
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:07 am to stout
No. I still think we need to focus on fixing ourselves internally. We have a visa for the "best of the best" and that should be enough and definitely monitored and audited.
This graph shows that the system is definitely being illegally abused by the Indian H1B farms and needs to stop and all that have taken advantage of this illegal abuse needs to be deported. To me this is included in the Mass Deportation agenda Trump ran and won on.
Fix the issue Biden accelerated by bringing in illegals in from the South and East. Heck from all over the world. Shut it down, fix the issue and let's figure out where we are before we make these mistakes again.
This graph shows that the system is definitely being illegally abused by the Indian H1B farms and needs to stop and all that have taken advantage of this illegal abuse needs to be deported. To me this is included in the Mass Deportation agenda Trump ran and won on.
Fix the issue Biden accelerated by bringing in illegals in from the South and East. Heck from all over the world. Shut it down, fix the issue and let's figure out where we are before we make these mistakes again.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:10 am to HagaDaga
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We have a visa for the "best of the best" and that should be enough and definitely monitored and audited.
Do you know that Elon was denied an O1 after selling his first company Zip2 and had to use an H1-B?
Think of how bad it would have been for Elon to wind up back in South Africa or Canada.
H1-B needs to be tweaked but O1 might be too strict.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:16 am to stout
I agree things can always be fixed and tweaked probably, but I don't care what happened with Musk.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:32 am to stout
Indians are specifically a problem, they are not very intelligent, and they have a culture of corruption and nepotism. They also have problems with violence, especially rape.
But immigration is generally not desirable. And shifting the visas to other countries would simply be less bad. Homogenous societies are much healthier.
But immigration is generally not desirable. And shifting the visas to other countries would simply be less bad. Homogenous societies are much healthier.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 9:40 am
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:00 am to stout
In some cases it is importing the wrong people from Asia.
I do not think it is importing from the wrong countries.
India is a fantastic resource for STEM, logically graduating millions of STEM per year they have a large number of extremely talented people who want to come here.
HOWEVER
Some of them are not actually good at the jobs they get, or they get jobs where we have a glut of like accountants.
Specifically because companies who don't want to pay the going local rate (which is stupid high in California), or do not have enough of a profit margin to afford the going local rate.
For India specifically there are companies that import their "clients" who then have Children here as backdoor immigration.
I think we need to be a lot more careful which individuals we let in and which companies are allowed to sponsor them.
Ignoring the Master's Degree cap avoidance issue, we don't take in every applicant from India, which means that these companies who basically sell US immigration are ripping us off of the best talent.
Why is this important?
Because bringing in each Masters Student and H1B comes at a cost.
They take a slot in a university that may have gone to an American or a stronger foreign Student.
They take Graduate jobs that would have gone to an American or a strong foreign Student.
Both of those are tax payer supported.
They then take jobs that would have gone to an American or a stronger foreign worker.
When used as immigration this can lead to large societal costs.
Chain immigration means their parents can come over and get Medicare in 5 years. They can also "work" for 10 years and collect Social Security and supplements.
This is a worthwhile cost when we bring in the best.
I think Elon's plan to increase the costs will force companies to look harder at the skills of those they hire.
I would like H1B caps each year to be related to the number of people we graduate in each field and the number of openings.
If we are not employing our college grads in a field then we should not be importing new workers in that field.
I would like to more heavily recruit H1Bs from Europe in addition to the numbers we get from India. Europe pays for all kinds of niche PhD in science, they write papers and do very little.
Would love to bring their expertise here.
I do not think it is importing from the wrong countries.
India is a fantastic resource for STEM, logically graduating millions of STEM per year they have a large number of extremely talented people who want to come here.
HOWEVER
Some of them are not actually good at the jobs they get, or they get jobs where we have a glut of like accountants.
Specifically because companies who don't want to pay the going local rate (which is stupid high in California), or do not have enough of a profit margin to afford the going local rate.
For India specifically there are companies that import their "clients" who then have Children here as backdoor immigration.
I think we need to be a lot more careful which individuals we let in and which companies are allowed to sponsor them.
Ignoring the Master's Degree cap avoidance issue, we don't take in every applicant from India, which means that these companies who basically sell US immigration are ripping us off of the best talent.
Why is this important?
Because bringing in each Masters Student and H1B comes at a cost.
They take a slot in a university that may have gone to an American or a stronger foreign Student.
They take Graduate jobs that would have gone to an American or a strong foreign Student.
Both of those are tax payer supported.
They then take jobs that would have gone to an American or a stronger foreign worker.
When used as immigration this can lead to large societal costs.
Chain immigration means their parents can come over and get Medicare in 5 years. They can also "work" for 10 years and collect Social Security and supplements.
This is a worthwhile cost when we bring in the best.
I think Elon's plan to increase the costs will force companies to look harder at the skills of those they hire.
I would like H1B caps each year to be related to the number of people we graduate in each field and the number of openings.
If we are not employing our college grads in a field then we should not be importing new workers in that field.
I would like to more heavily recruit H1Bs from Europe in addition to the numbers we get from India. Europe pays for all kinds of niche PhD in science, they write papers and do very little.
Would love to bring their expertise here.
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