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re: Is being racist always wrong?

Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:41 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:41 am to
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Yea those aren't simple recessive traits.
So as we're sitting on the porch, Jeff says drinking out of the LSU cup was a recessive trait.

Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:41 am to
Oh, I knew the reference. However, Indians do like Martini Drinks introduced to them by the Brits. It's mentioned in a book by Danesh D'Souza. Even many Muslims (who aren't supposed to drink) cannot give up their martinis.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:45 am to
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Oh, I knew the reference. However, Indians do like Martini Drinks introduced to them by the Brits. It's mentioned in a book by Danesh D'Souza. Even many Muslims (who aren't supposed to drink) cannot give up their martinis.

I would like to point out, however, that in your list of races from superior to inferior, "Jews" are not a race. I'm wondering if you were referring to Semites.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:59 am to
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I would like to point out, however, that in your list of races from superior to inferior, "Jews" are not a race. I'm wondering if you were referring to Semites.


In TBC, they refer to Sephartics. I'm probably misspelling it. Definitely not Semites since that would include Arabs. Arabs aren't very bright. And if you are an Arab don't be offended. I'm a Cajun and, in general, Cajuns are not very bright.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:00 am to
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I'm not joking....take an honest look around....you know that this is the way the politically correct world works right now....You know it....but you can't say it, because it's not "politically correct"

In a free society you cannot blame the people who promote "Political Correctness", you can only blame the people who fall for it.

IOW, if you limit your speech due to the political opinions of others, it's your own fault.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:10 am to
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Definitely not Semites since that would include Arabs. Arabs aren't very bright.

Jesus, man, talk about a moving target.

So basically Jews are the smartest race because your definition of 'Jew' necessarily excludes stupid people of the same race.

And as far as being offended, ignorant statements reflect more poorly on the speaker than those spoken of.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:18 am to
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Jesus, man, talk about a moving target.

It's not a moving target at all. I'm just quoting TBC. If you don't like it, call Charles Murray.

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So basically Jews are the smartest race because your definition of 'Jew' necessarily excludes stupid people of the same race.


No. IQ is inherited. Therefore, it requires sex between a man and a woman. Jews haven't intermarried with Arabs to any significant degree for 1,000 years. The Semite tree broke into two distinct branches a LONG time ago.

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ignorant statements reflect more poorly on the speaker than those spoken of.


I agree.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:42 am to
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The Semite tree broke into two distinct branches a LONG time ago.

I see.

Although these jews don't seem to be very 'distinct' as a group...













Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 3:00 pm to
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...the entire practice of the system was to intimidate and prevent black Americans from participating.

Wow!

I don't know which is more sad:
(1) That you'd post such a thing, or
(2) That you might actually believe it.


At which point between, say, 1776 and 1950 would you say the general direction of the system and its citizens was to promote black advancement and not to actively retard it? At which point in those years was the system and its citizens not directly benefiting from the violent intimidation of black people?

Have you people ever read any history at all?
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Although these jews don't seem to be very 'distinct' as a group...


Uh, I don't see where their IQ's are listed.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 4:20 pm to
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Uh, I don't see where their IQ's are listed.


Exactly, if you define 'Jew' as any intelligent person, then yes, Jews will be the most intelligent group.


But the images I posted do not represent one 'race' of people in any meaningful way.

Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 4:51 pm to
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Exactly, if you define 'Jew' as any intelligent person, then yes, Jews will be the most intelligent group.


a. Don't get stupid with me.
b. Your odometer just rolled over.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 5:03 pm to
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At which point between, say, 1776 and 1950 would you say the general direction of the system and its citizens was to promote black advancement and not to actively retard it?
The general direction of the system?
You mean like in NewYork, Minnesota, Michigan . . . . and virtually all the major population centers?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 5:07 pm to
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At which point between, say, 1776 and 1950 would you say the general direction of the system and its citizens was to promote black advancement and not to actively retard it?


1865 to the 1880s when the GOP was in control. Black oppression began again when the Democrats were given back control of states. And none of this is on point to your original proposition that the country was founded on white supremacy.
This post was edited on 4/27/14 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 5:12 pm to
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The general direction of the system?
You mean like in NewYork, Minnesota, Michigan . . . . and virtually all the major population centers?


Yes. Primary markets where the FHA actively inhibited black home ownership.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 5:17 pm to
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Primary markets where the FHA actively inhibited black home ownership.
Link?

And before you go off on a redlining rant, I'm referring to linking an antiactuarial basis for lending decisions.
This post was edited on 4/27/14 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36836 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 5:41 pm to
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And before you go off on a redlining rant, I'm referring to linking an antiactuarial basis for lending decisions.


Why isn't redlining good enough for you?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 5:44 pm to
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Why isn't redlining good enough for you?
Why isn't FHA solvency good enough for you.

Was there an actuarial counter-factual in the process?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 5:46 pm to
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Why isn't redlining good enough for you?


Depends on the motivation for redlining. Redlining simply because you don't like a certain race or ethnicity is obviously a piss poor business decision. Redlining because a certain area had twice a default rate as areas it borders is a pretty wise business decision.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36836 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 5:51 pm to
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Depends on the motivation for redlining. Redlining simply because you don't like a certain race or ethnicity is obviously a piss poor business decision. Redlining because a certain area had twice a default rate as areas it borders is a pretty wise business decision.


I'll let you guys do some reading before I waste anymore time with you. I prefer this one:

Family Properties.

Focuses on some particular practices in Chicago, but has a pretty detailed indictment of the vicious practices of the FHA which goes sternly against the idea that blacks had higher default rates. If anything, the cause/effect is reversed: because blacks were denied federally-subsidized insurance (like whites had easy access to), it left them easy prey for scummy slumlords who cheated them on rate and on contract terms...which lead to defaults.

And once the momentum was built, then it was just a beast of its own.

Make no mistake about it: the origin of redlining was vicious anti-black racism. In Chicago, there were many many riots where white mobs set upon hard-working, black middle-class citizens...in full view of - and often aided by - cops.
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