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re: Is Baton Rouge really a "city" ?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 12:21 pm to Asgard Device
Posted on 12/30/13 at 12:21 pm to Asgard Device
quote:Then you need to re-read the post you quoted. It was not referring to just the CATS tax.
I'm referring to the CATS tax not applying to unincorporated areas.
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:14 pm to LSURussian
Do people outside of incorporated BR pay the CATS tax? Everything I've read on news sites regarding this says only those areas which voted on the tax and passed it (Baker and inside BR city limits) had their property tax increased because of it, but I keep hearing proponents of St. George bringing that up.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:20 pm to Dorothy
They do not
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:22 pm to Dorothy
quote:Yeah, I wonder why they keep doing that...
I keep hearing proponents of St. George bringing that up.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:38 pm to LSURussian
Unincorporated BR does not pay CATS. But it does pay around 50 million annually that goes into the BR City general fund for services and projects that exclude Ununcorporated BR.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:39 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Then you need to re-read the post you quoted. It was not referring to just the CATS tax.
Can I have your forgiveness?
There does seem to be a lot of disinformation coming from St Georgites. For some reason, many believe they are paying the CATS tax and also the BR city general fund tax.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:39 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:
Did the voters of the parish consent by vote? There are probably things in the French Quarter I have to pay for with taxes, since I live in New Orleans, but I don't directly benefit because I don't live there, do I?
Thats a bit different. A more apt analogy would be all of Jefferson Parish funding the Kenner City Police.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:47 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:
Did the voters of the parish consent by vote? There are probably things in the French Quarter I have to pay for with taxes, since I live in New Orleans, but I don't directly benefit because I don't live there, do I?
This can be said for many municipalities around the country....and can also apply to the Federal government....
Isn't that where we are headed with this conversation??
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:51 pm to SpidermanTUba
Hey Tuba!! I thought you said you were too busy with the fam to be lurking around here anymore???
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:56 pm to Asgard Device
quote:
There does seem to be a lot of disinformation coming from St Georgites. For some reason, many believe they are paying the CATS tax and also the BR city general fund tax.
They are paying into the BR general fund.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:04 pm to Antonio Moss
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Unincorporated BR does not pay CATS. But it does pay around 50 million annually that goes into the BR City general fund for services and projects that exclude Ununcorporated BR.
The city of BR pays more to the Sheriff's department than the proposed city of St George does. Both police departments have their funding spread out throughout the parish.
Both the BRPD and EBRSO have similar budgets and around the same number of officers.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:13 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
They are paying into the BR general fund.
Technically I think the city and parish have two different funds, but they both are used as a means of financing the consolidated general fund (I.e. warrant the funds over.)
You said "BR city general fund", which I think is only paid into by people in the city limits.
My rental in BR has an extra tax for the BR general fund that the property in Shenandoah does not. Both have the same parish taxes. BR property has a BR Fire tax and a CATS tax while the Shenandoah property has a St George tax and a canal tax.
Properties in Livingston Parish and Zachary have higher taxes.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:40 pm to Asgard Device
quote:
The city of BR pays more to the Sheriff's department than the proposed city of St George does. Both police departments have their funding spread out throughout the parish.
Except the EBRSO covers BR city; the BRPD doesn't cover unincorporated BR. EBRSO is supposed to have its funding spread out throughout the Parish because it covers the entire parish. The BRPD only covers BR city.
This isn't a hard concept.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:43 pm to Asgard Device
quote:
You said "BR city general fund", which I think is only paid into by people in the city limits.
Nope.
The city had admitted that around 50 million annually is moved into the BR city general fund from parishes taxes paid by unincorporated BR. And that's just what the city admits; I'd be interested to see what an audit reveals.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:52 pm to Antonio Moss
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Except the EBRSO covers BR city; the BRPD doesn't cover unincorporated BR. EBRSO is supposed to have its funding spread out throughout the Parish because it covers the entire parish. The BRPD only covers BR city.
That's the constable portion of the EBRSO. It's not like EBRSO patrols the city. BRPD provides assistance to unincorporated areas as well.
It may not be 50/50 but it's relatively close AND won't change unless St George gets it's own police. They'll come after your pocketbook for that.
My biggest fear, and I've said this since the first day they brought up creating a new school district, is that they'll incorporate a new city and not even get their own school system. My suspicion is that getting control of those revenue streams has been the goal of this whole ordeal.
I'm not even sure incorporating really means you only need a majority vote in the state legislature. I recall it needing 2/3rds for Central. I need to look that up.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:52 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:
I'm a little uneasy
Please don't die over this, please!!!
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:55 pm to Jim Ignatowski
quote:
This can be said for many municipalities around the country....
Like where?
quote:
and can also apply to the Federal government....
How?
Even the residents of DC have their own city council and mayor.
My point is that the city of BR is a city only in name - its really just a special district of the parish.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:56 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
A more apt analogy would be all of Jefferson Parish funding the Kenner City Police.
Do they?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:59 pm to Asgard Device
quote:
The city of BR pays more to the Sheriff's department than the proposed city of St George does. Both police departments have their funding spread out throughout the parish. Both the BRPD and EBRSO have similar budgets and around the same number of officers.
The EBR Sheriff is constitutionally mandated to run the parish prison, and to subpoena, handle evictions and to collect property taxes. This is besides their police duties.
When you say the police and the sheriff have equal budgets and equal numbers of officers; you are comparing apples and oranges.
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