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re: Is Andy Ngo a reliable source?

Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:26 pm to
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just told me Andy Ngo is not a reliable source during a discussion
The left has completely taken over every major media outlet other than Fox........ refuses to cover things...... then calls everyone not them unreliable

Your friend is stupid
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86098 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:28 pm to
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You mean like taking a concrete milkshake to the head, beaten senseless, and robbed?

Yeah I might take it personally too...….



In fairness, his battles began before that.

And he's certainly used it to his advantage, whether it's something he's exaggerated or not.

I see no reason to deny the realities of this sort of thing - getting attacked by the mob has probably made Andy money and enlarged his audience.
Posted by lz2112
Largo, Fl
Member since Oct 2019
1172 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:36 pm to
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Go to his twitter site, look at all of the videos and mug shots of those arrested.......then you tell me




The mugshots are actually his primary point of contention. He claims since they are not sourced, it makes everything suspect.

I replied they were FOI requests, he could make his own to prove Andy's FOS.

And so it goes. I encourage everyone here to engage a leftist in calm debate, it eventually becomes entertaining when you get past the WTF frustration of someone being so stupid.

And who knows, perhaps a circuit makes a connection in one of these dim bulbs.

Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6345 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:36 pm to
Your friend is an unreliable source.
If the Antifa crowd despise him, then I love him. I suspect your friend is somewhat sympathetic to the Antifa crowd.

Andy Ngo has been bringing attention to Antifa a good while now. From Antifa tearing up college campuses simply for having a conservative speaker on the campus, to the craziness we are seeing now.

Any group that does what they did to him can't be trusted and are on the wrong side.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11634 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:42 pm to
He likes to poke the bear, and when the bear attacks he makes a story out of it.
Posted by Tigerhalen
Member since May 2020
982 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:44 pm to
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Andy Ngo is left of center as well



He told Joe Rogan he is right of center.

He’s very reliable and putting his life in danger to bring us news from the “peaceful protests” in Portland.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 3:47 pm
Posted by lz2112
Largo, Fl
Member since Oct 2019
1172 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:46 pm to
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In fairness, his battles began before that.

And he's certainly used it to his advantage, whether it's something he's exaggerated or not.

I see no reason to deny the realities of this sort of thing - getting attacked by the mob has probably made Andy money and enlarged his audience.


Would he make things up for the money and audience?

I don't see evidence of that, but that is a common theme in "journalism" these days.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:52 pm to
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quote:
Andy Ngo is left of center as well


He told Joe Rogan he is right of center.


Both could be true if these 2 statements are in chronological order from the top.

Maybe "center" moved and not Andy
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86098 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:56 pm to
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He likes to poke the bear, and when the bear attacks he makes a story out of it.



Yeah but "poking the bear" here is often stuff like filming criminals doing criminal shite.

It's not like he's yelling racial slurs and then turning on the camera as the mob runs toward him.

I do think he goes into settings knowing that his presence will be a feature of whatever happens, and using that reality to exhibit the behavior, tactics, violence of the mob. But a lot of that has nothing to do with him other than the fact he has a specific target on his back.

And considering he's warring with people who use these tactics all the time (throw bottles at police so the police will tear gas them, etc.), it's hard not to see the benefit in what he does.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86098 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Would he make things up for the money and audience?



I don't think he invents things.

I do think he's committed to a particular narrative - that ANTIFA is a terrorist org - and tries to fit everything into it. Sometimes he probably tries a little too hard to do that. Of course, the narrative he's committed to is largely true.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44888 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 4:02 pm to
Watch the livestreams from other folks. Ngo is simply filming what is going on.

And he was incognito for this round of riots. Some Antifa folks busted him one night though
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141559 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 4:08 pm to
All of Andy Ngo’s reporting is backed up with video.

Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44888 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 4:14 pm to
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The mugshots are actually his primary point of contention. He claims since they are not sourced, it makes everything suspect.


Have him give you a list of people that Ngo shows that were arrested that actually weren’t.

He won’t because he doesn’t want to know the truth.

Hell, half of those people arrested admit it themselves on social media.
Posted by SoRelph
NoVa
Member since Aug 2018
26 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 4:29 pm to
He’s a good Twitter follow. He’s found a niche. There is no doubt he caters more to a right-leaning audience showing bad people doing bad shite from the left. I dig it. Even if it is true he edits videos for some of it to be misleading as it’s been claimed he does (I don’t know), it’s still interesting and has a lot of truth to it.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 4:31 pm
Posted by lz2112
Largo, Fl
Member since Oct 2019
1172 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 4:30 pm to
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I do think he goes into settings knowing that his presence will be a feature of whatever happens, and using that reality to exhibit the behavior, tactics, violence of the mob


In that regard, he does dance on the fine line of reporting the news and creating the news.

My misguided friend finally pulled the trigger and said

"He doesn't do journalism.
That is his problem, and if you cannot see the difference between his 'reporting' and CNN or Fox or CBS or WAPO, you aren't paying attention."

And my reply:
"Given that group, I'd say he is the ONLY one doing real journalism. He backs up his reports with video, doesn't use "unnamed" sources, etc. Why doesn't he work for the MSM? Perhaps because he has something they have lost, ethics. That you cite CNN, Fox, CBS, WaPo as legitimate journalism just reveals how misguided you are. Non of them practice journalism, they tantalize the uninformed with the most salacious garbage they can for views and ratings.

If you want real news, you need to work for it. Google an event and see what local news is reporting, they are far more reliable than the MSM. Then go to independent journalists, compare their reports to what the local stations say. In a free society you shouldn't have to work that hard to get the news, but that is where we are.

That you apparently get all your information from the propaganda spewed by CNN, etc. explains a great deal. CNN has become nothing more than the Völkischer Beobachter of the DNC.
"

Not sure why I'm posting this here, chalk it up to day drinking.

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