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Iraq begins its final offensive against ISIS

Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65113 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:04 pm
After President Obama said ISIS was the new reality, Trump has put them on the ropes in less than 11 months. And he's done that by removing a lot of the pesky ROEs that were limiting our commanders in the field, while also giving them free reign to make tactical and strategic decisions with limited inputs from Washington.

And the media will never give him credit for the turnaround.

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Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53842 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:06 pm to
He also stopped funding them!
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:09 pm to
Happy Thanksgiving
Posted by doverstutts
Member since Jul 2017
1070 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:11 pm to
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He also stopped funding them!
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:29 pm to
Yeah, mercs stop fighting when the cash stops rollin' in
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:31 pm to
In order to win a war, you must first WANT to win the war.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:33 pm to
This time next year, ISIS will hold no territory anymore.

They'll probably still be underground but there claims to land and sovereignty will be kaput.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:58 pm to
Its a huge victory for the Iranians. With Syria and Iraq in their orbit, they are now the 2nd strongest power in the Middle East, behind Israel. And with Iranian general Soleimani leading the pack, they have violently crushed any hopes of an independent Kurdistan. US foreign policy in the ME continues to be as dysfunctional as ever. What have we won? Why are we sending more troops to the region? Exactly, what have American soldiers really died for?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48930 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Its a huge victory for the Iranians. With Syria and Iraq in their orbit, they are now the 2nd strongest power in the Middle East, behind Israel. And with Iranian general Soleimani leading the pack, they have violently crushed any hopes of an independent Kurdistan. US foreign policy in the ME continues to be as dysfunctional as ever. What have we won? Why are we sending more troops to the region? Exactly, what have American soldiers really died for?


What would you have us do? Continue funding the Wahhabist Al Qaeda terrorists?
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:08 pm to
He also stopped arming them.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:14 pm to
Obama's next plan of attack was to air drop ISIS thousands of 6 year old pocket pussies.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:19 pm to
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What would you have us do? Continue funding the Wahhabist Al Qaeda terrorists?


Assuming that Iran is our greatest ME enemy, that would make more sense. Of course, "breaking Iraq" which began with the Bushes, set the stage for a no-win outcome for the US. In my opinion, all American deaths in this century in the Middle East have been in vain. Don't give me that "freedom" bullshite.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:32 pm to
We gonna modernize Saudi Arabia. Women driving. Aramco on the New York exchange. Crown Prince preaching moderate Islam, denouncing extremism. And we will continue selling weapons to his government to balance Iran.

Sounds right?
Posted by Orange_and_Blur
Gainesville
Member since Nov 2017
644 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:41 pm to
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This time next year, ISIS will hold no territory anymore.


Also, Hillary and Obama will be under consideration for charges of treason.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:41 pm to
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We gonna modernize Saudi Arabia.


That's going to take a long time.

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Crown Prince preaching moderate Islam, denouncing extremism.


The Wahhabis and Saudis have a long history. Ibn Saud and Al-Wahhab were allies. A move toward a more moderate school will take time, and given that there are more Wahhabis in the Gulf than anywhere else, I'm utterly skeptical of the possibility of success.

Moving away from Sunni Islamism means, in part, conceding defeat to Shias, and that will be very difficult to swallow.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:44 pm to
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That's going to take a long time. 


Crusades last a long time?
Posted by Orange_and_Blur
Gainesville
Member since Nov 2017
644 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:49 pm to
Deus Vult!
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:49 pm to
It's going to take, at a minimum, a decade, and that's not even discussing how MBS is going to deal with the cleric class, with whom the Saudi royals always have limited political capital.

Also, there is no indication that suddenly Sunni Islamism is going to go away. There has been a consistent campaign since 1979 to globalize the Hanbali school, and given that the other schools do not have globalizing power, as of yet, I'll remain skeptical that the KSA can be "modernized" at all.
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4622 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:43 pm to
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This time next month, ISIS will hold no territory anymore.


FIFY
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 9:28 pm to
So why would the US be a party to a settlement that has allowed hundreds of foreign ISIS fighters and their weapons to flee unharmed? Did we develop a soft spot for them. Convoy of 6 to 7 KM allowed to escape.

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When US-backed Syrian fighters took full control of the city of Raqqa, it ended three years of rule there by so-called Islamic State. But now the BBC has uncovered details of a secret deal that let several hundred IS fighters escape. IS made Raqqa in northern Syria its headquarters in early 2014. Last month Raqqa fell, but this programme has learnt that in exchange for a deal to save lives and bring peace to the city, a convoy carrying several hundred IS fighters, their families and weapons and ammunition -- were able to leave the city freely. The question now is, where are they now? Our Middle East Correspondent, Quentin Sommerville, has this exclusive report.


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