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re: Illegal immigrants cited in theft of 39 million Social Security numbers

Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:08 pm to
While I have no doubt social security fraud is committed by some illegal aliens, there are a lot of gaps in the information presented by that article.

ETA: Obviously, the downvoters can’t refute that statement.

This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 1:32 pm
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:09 pm to
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BamaAtl


Thank God your a stay at home loser. We are ALL safer that way.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115426 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:09 pm to
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are you fricking retarded?


Let me help you out here...yes, she is.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157798 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:10 pm to
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Nearly 40 million Social Security numbers have been stolen and used by illegal immigrants and others to get work, according to agency records obtained by an immigration reform group. The Immigration Reform Law Institute said that from 2012 to 2016 there were “39 million instances where names and Social Security numbers on W-2 tax forms did not match the corresponding Social Security records.” The group said that there is a “thriving black market” used by illegal immigrants to get Social Security numbers needed to get a job.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:11 pm to
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“39 million instances where names and Social Security numbers on W-2 tax forms did not match the corresponding Social Security records.”


quote:

Nearly 40 million Social Security numbers have been stolen and used by illegal immigrants and others to get work, according to agency records obtained by an immigration reform group.


These two statements do not match. You need to learn to be more wary of an inflammatory conclusion from a biased source that refuses to tell you how they reached their conclusion.

We both know you won't, but you'd be better-served in life if you didn't believe fake shite like this.
Posted by trumpisboss
Member since Dec 2017
29 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:11 pm to
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What’s to stop these illegals from voting?
You are thinking what I am thinking. The odds are that a lot of them did vote, and are being hunted down now.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:12 pm to
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The odds are that a lot of them did vote


The odds and the facts are that almost none of them voted.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:13 pm to
Any employer found to have hired an illegal using a stolen SS# should get 2 mandatory 2 years in prison.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:13 pm to
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They don't really define what they consider an error, or how many times the


I think they pretty well "defined" them as STOLEN... Wow, you are an idiot...
Posted by trumpisboss
Member since Dec 2017
29 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:13 pm to
And you would know this, how? Remote viewing?
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The odds and the facts are that almost none of them voted.

Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17546 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:14 pm to
That doesn’t really address his point.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:15 pm to
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I think they pretty well "defined" them as STOLEN...


No, their only definition was that it was 36M instances of when the W-2 records didn't match other records.

They don't tell you which records they're using as the gold standard, what they consider an error, if multiple errors per W-2/SSN are allowed, or how they determined that every single one of the 36M 'errors' was related to an illegal immigrant 'stealing' the number.

Because if they told you all of that, their conclusion wouldn't hold up.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90587 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:16 pm to
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almost none
Beautiful, maybe it was many voted but they counted them wrong.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:16 pm to
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that almost none of them voted.


Wait, wait... the narrative once was "illegals don't vote"... So now you are saying "Almost NONE of them voted"... So you concede that illegals do in fact vote in elections in this country?
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:17 pm to
Just people here trying to work hard and live a good life.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:17 pm to
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And you would know this, how?


Because in-person voter fraud is so rare as to be a huge story when it does happen once or twice across the entire country in a single national election.

A study looking at all voting records/reports from 2000-14 found just 31 credible instances of in-person fraud out of Billions of ballots cast.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:17 pm to
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You need to learn to be more wary of an inflammatory conclusion from a biased source that refuses to tell you how they reached their conclusion.


You mean like the FISA warrants?

What's your stance on those?
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:17 pm to
Thanks Obama!
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:19 pm to
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Wait, wait... the narrative once was "illegals don't vote"... So now you are saying "Almost NONE of them voted"


If I said none of them vote at least one of you would find the 1 or 2 documented instances over the last decade where someone did commit in-person fraud and happened to be an illegal immigrant.

So 'almost none' just saves us all the time of some idiot thinking they have a gotcha on 1 case out of billions of ballots.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:19 pm to
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Because if they told you all of that, their conclusion wouldn't hold up.


Wow, that is a whole nother level of stupid you have going on.... Is it painful?
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