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re: If only ____ voted electoral map

Posted on 5/2/21 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 2:01 pm to
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They'd probably only alienate their extreme base by reaching out ( " pandering") to most POC/ immigrants etc...


It's a fair trade off

And the extreme base isn't going to vote dem
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 2:17 pm to
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It's a fair trade off

And the extreme base isn't going to vote dem


I agree they won't vote Dem , but become disenchanted & won't show up at the polls . More a zero sum game or worse.

I doubt if 74 million show up for Jeb or a "Gang of 8" type Republican pushing immigration reform( path to citizenship) or other issues important to poc or moderate/ liberal women.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 4:52 pm to
There is no hope for the people of color.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 4:54 pm to
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I agree they won't vote Dem , but become disenchanted & won't show up at the polls . More a zero sum game or worse.

I doubt if 74 million show up for Jeb or a "Gang of 8" type Republican pushing immigration reform( path to citizenship) or other issues important to poc or moderate/ liberal women.



The problem is without creating a platform that is appealing to women and POC the GOP is doomed to irrelevancy anyway. And BTW you don't have to have immigration reform as a staple of your platform.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 5:00 pm to
So both “educated” and “non-educated” whites in Minnesota voted blue. Yet Minnesota whites voted red overall.

Sooooo...white liberal women and morons voted blue. That is how you end up with this:

This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 5:02 pm to
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So both “educated” and “non-educated” whites in Minnesota voted blue. Yet Minnesota whites voted red overall.

Which means the data is wrong

ETA - Or more accurately your statement is wrong
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 5:05 pm to
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Which means the data is wrong

ETA - Or more accurately your statement is wrong


Or educated white men voted for Trump en masse. Your gotcha is lacking.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 5:06 pm to
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Or educated white men voted for Trump en masse

Which is an accurate statement

You claimed that the totality of all whites voted red which is clearly impossible
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 5:11 pm to
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Not sure I totally agree with the white women breakdown. Trump did worse in suburbs in 2020 due to white women. Lots of these suburban white women are “woke.”



I think that was another fable that was drilled into the populous. In 2016 he was grabbing p@##, four years later more of them have jobs, they were getting paid far more, illegals were not crowding their kids schools, the roads, or the emergency room. Energy prices were down. Lot more reason to vote for Trump than in 2016.

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 5:22 pm to
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Nearly a third of college educated white people are lying. 


how is this a surprise?

TD a political board of LSU fans routinely brag how they lie to pollsters and stir up their friends and lurkers to do so too.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34141 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 5:26 pm to
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You claimed that the totality of all whites voted red which is clearly impossible


Upon review, this is true and I stand corrected.

Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2782 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 5:58 pm to
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For all of the wisdom of our forefathers, their biggest failure was not ending slavery, thus declaring independence for everyone. We are feeling the results of this 250 yrs later.

The big losers in the slave-holding South were the white yoeman laborers. History shows that the real winners were the prodigy of the African slaves. Even if they were still slaves today, they would be better off than they would be in Sub-Saharan Africa.
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