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re: I thought solar was the wave of the future? 73 bankrupt companies
Posted on 10/13/19 at 7:00 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 10/13/19 at 7:00 pm to Korkstand
quote:You do realize almost all utility grade panels are made in china, right? With small quantities coming from Singapore, Philippines and Mexico...
Rather, the goal should be to diversify our energy sources, and rely as little as possible on foreign fuel inputs, for national security reasons.
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:07 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:I do.
You do realize almost all utility grade panels are made in china, right? With small quantities coming from Singapore, Philippines and Mexico...
You realize I said "foreign fuel inputs", right?
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:11 pm to RobbBobb
Solar is stupid. Naturally made fossil fuels are the most dependable, efficient energy source ever discovered.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:21 pm to Tesla
quote:
don’t know, but Florida Power & Light is trying to find out.
What do you know about this company? Just curious because they are doing a couple of big solar projects here in North Alabama and Southern Tennessee for a new Facebook development.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:24 pm to Crimson Wraith
quote:
Most likely was planned all along. How much money did the dims make off of these companies from gubment grants?
Think Ukraine and China, only local and "legal"?
Political Payoffs is all it was and all it is.
Wake up America.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:29 pm to Nephropidae
quote:
How many acres of solar panels would be required to generate enough energy to match the US energy consumption?
I'm curious how many acres would be needed to power a true power consumer like a steel mill.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:41 pm to Korkstand
quote:Being dependent on "foreign fuel" wouldn't be any different than being dependent on "foreign solar panels".
You realize I said "foreign fuel inputs", right?
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:02 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
I thought solar was the wave of the future?
It is.
quote:
Bankruptcies Continue in Solar Industry
You're making the case against subsidies, not solar.
The science and economics of solar are improving at a nice rate. Utility-scale solar installations have grown ten-fold in Texas over the past 4 years.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:04 pm to RobbBobb
Pump your brakes there killer.
This is China’s fault. And I’m being 100% serious.
This is China’s fault. And I’m being 100% serious.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:08 pm to WPBTiger
quote:
Thanks Obama.
Lol! No,seriously this time
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:08 pm to BeepNode
quote:
The science and economics of solar are improving at a nice rate.
Been hearing that horseshiiit for 50 years.
Like "the global warming crisis", it's always right around the corner.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:26 pm to BeepNode
quote:Is that why companies are going bankrupt, yeildcos are gone, and everyone not pedaling cheap azz chinese panels has fled the utility scale market?
The science and economics of solar are improving at a nice rate.
quote:10x a minuscule number isn't significant. Except for a few weeks a year the TX grid is overpowered. No one is bringing solar on line on the TX grid because it makes economic sense.
Utility-scale solar installations have grown ten-fold in Texas over the past 4 years.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:31 pm to Dale51
quote:
Been hearing that horseshiiit for 50 years.
I think what you're referring to is that we seem to mis-represent how much further along technology will be in the future. When I was a kid in the 80's, it was widely believed that we'd have flying cars, recreational spaceships, and personal robots by now.
Just because it didn't happen yet doesn't mean it's horseshiiit. It's all going to happen on a long enough timeline.
Or do you also believe electric cars will not replace most gas-powered cars? Or that they'll drive themselves?
Solar power is already reaching parity with conventional forms of power generation. It's likely going to continue to improve at a faster rate than all the rest, with fusion being a possible exception.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:32 pm to WPBTiger
quote:
Thanks Obama.
I completely trusted him to spend my tax money on companies without special interest. BHO is da best!
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:34 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Is that why companies are going bankrupt, yeildcos are gone, and everyone not pedaling cheap azz chinese panels has fled the utility scale market?
If the government subsidized US production of LED flatscreen panels, would you be shocked that they went bankrupt, especially after many of the subsidies tapered off? If those companies all went bankrupt, would you scream that LED panels are not viable?
No, of course not. They'd go back to being made in China and nobody would be shocked.
I think the idea was to fund R&D, but of course it turned into something else.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:35 pm to BeepNode
quote:
Solar power is already reaching parity with conventional forms of power generation.
No. quote:What exactly do you base this claim on? Some new advancement in the understanding of polysilicon physics?
It's likely going to continue to improve at a faster rate than all the rest,
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:35 pm to RobbBobb
Solar power is great for running water pumps on a terrace farm?
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:35 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:
I'm curious how many acres would be needed to power a true power consumer like a steel mill.
It’s going to take over 2000 acres to service a Facebook development here in North Alabama. I’m guessing the Facebook project is just a building full of servers. Not sure how much power servers use but the cooling system is probably the biggest drain on power.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:37 pm to BeepNode
quote:Literally nothing to do with it. You do realize that most utlity scale projects were built for the tax breaks, not the electricity, right?
If the government subsidized US production of LED flatscreen panels, would you be shocked that they went bankrupt, especially after many of the subsidies tapered off? If those companies all went bankrupt, would you scream that LED panels are not viable?
quote:
I think the idea was to fund R&D
No.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:39 pm to highcotton2
That’s the problem is the current density of the panels don’t generate enough KW.
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