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Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:50 am to Azkiger
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What do you mean by "anything beyond structure", and how do you know me so well?
Youre the average basic human being. Nothing against you, but most humans are raised to be dissonant, materialistic type A linear thinkers.
You have no faith in your ability to use instinctive paths, you choose proven paths.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, it just means you'll struggle with concepts until you find known (to you) paths of evidence over enlightenment.
Those who make a difference can see the random and embrace it.
Religion is man's creation.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 10:51 am
Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:51 am to Azkiger
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There was a peaceful way to solve the supposed issue,
and the creators of Judaism, being the product of bronze age thought and not a divine hand, didn't even stop and think about the morality of drowning children.
This was the same tribe of people that killed and raped prisoners of war.
Each component as you've construed them needs to be dismissed because they are not based on actual facts of the matters. They are based on an alternate source truth of things and events and people.
This timeline is an era of corrupt supernatural events and beings. Of rampant disobedience to God, worship of all things corrupt. Especially the DNA.
This will sound like a Marvel Universe movie (which NOT coincidentally borrows creatures and powers from this timeline.)
Quick synopsis of the matter:
Once the Fallen Angels (Nephilim) mated with human women, creating "Giants" ("see Genesis 6), this world got out of hand. Chimeras / Monsters were created; the human bloodline (Adam and Eve) was corrupted.
In using the Flood to destroy His original World, God was compelled to use Noah and his sons and their wives from which the purity of Adam's lineage could continue inward to Jesus Christ. (one line wound up corrupted some through one of Noah's sons -- Ham's WIFE.)
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Genesis 6:1
"Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose… There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. "
If you can't or won't be able to consider this a truth (or even "plausible"), the "logical" explanation will not suffice to you.
If by chance further digging into this subject matter interests you any, check out the work of Steven Quayle and Timothy Alberino as a great (mind-blowing) place to start. It will def lead you down the Wabbit Hole.
LINK
Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:52 am to msutiger
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Everyone worships something. Back in the day it was a golden calf
Negative, chief. They didn’t worship the golden calf. They worshipped YHWH using the golden calf. That’s how ancient Semitic people worshipped their gods… they needed an idol for the god to inhabit so that they could localize their god during worship. Re-read Exodus and you’ll see it’s obvious the golden calf was a representation of YHWH. That’s how the Israelites worshipped him before Moses came down with the tablets giving them instructions for the first time NOT to use idols in their worship of YHWH.
ETA: Exodus 32 refers to the golden calf as the one who rescued the Israelites from Egypt and Aaron takes the golden calf and builds an altar for it and proclaims a feast to YHWH.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:53 am to AggieHank86
I apologize, but I am going to have to get back to you on this. After all, I am at work, and I do not sit at a desk. I do appreciate your input on this topic, as I believe you seem to be well educated in this arena. admittedly, probably more so than I am.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:54 am to CPTDCKHD
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This is patently false.
No, it isn't.
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resurrection
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historical fact
See, presenting this as historical fact immediately removes any credibility you have.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Youre the average basic human being. Nothing against you, but most humans are raised to be dissonant, materialistic type A linear thinkers.
You have no faith in your ability to use instinctive paths, you choose proven paths.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, it just means you'll struggle with concepts until you find known (to you) paths of evidence over enlightenment.
Those who make a difference can see the random and embrace it.
Religion is man's creation.
Is this a fancy way of saying I depend on logic too much and lack faith? Because outside of that I don't have a clue what you're trying to say.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:58 am to Azkiger
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Is this a fancy way of saying I depend on logic too much and lack faith
No, its an easy way of saying you follow things other people do and say over trusting your own intuition, or even developing your own intuition.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:59 am to Liberator
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Each component as you've construed them needs to be dismissed because they are not based on actual facts of the matters.
Your thoughts on the matter need to be dismissed because if it never occurred to you that God could have just made those gene lines infertile instead of drowning children, you haven't given this issue an ounce of honest thought.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:00 am to Azkiger
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Your thoughts on the matter need to be dismissed
A fine example of type A linear thinking.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
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its an easy way of saying you follow things other people do and say
You just told me you could explain spirituality to me but it wouldn't do me any good.
But now all I do is follow what other people say? Doesn't that open the door for you to explain spirituality to me?
And my own intuition says drowning children is bad. So there is that.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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A fine example of type A linear thinking.
Also, ironically, a fine example of type A linear thinking.Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:03 am to Azkiger
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Also, ironically, a fine example of type A linear thinking.
Some of us can do both. I consider it a huge plus to be able to see the world through both hemispheres.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:05 am to Azkiger
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You just told me you could explain spirituality to me but it wouldn't do me any good.
You haven't shown the ability to understand anything not systemized for you.
Spirituality is an individual thing. It can be random, I don't think you can grasp the concept.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Some of us can do both. I consider it a huge plus to be able to see the world through both hemispheres.
That consideration is also the product of linear thinking.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:06 am to Azkiger
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Where in this source does it say the vast majority of scholars accept Jesus' life, death, and resurrection?
Who cares either way about "Scholars"? They already proven to be mercs and assets of certain Agendas.
You or I or anybody on this thread could well comport to any definition of "Scholarship" with respect to discerning Scriptural truth.
TO ALL:
Has anyone ever heard of the term, Autodidacticism:
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Autodidacticism or self-education (also self-learning and self-teaching) is education without the dogmatic guidance of alleged "masters" (such as teachers and professors) or corrupted institutions (such as schools ).
Generally, autodidacts are individuals who choose the subject they will study, their studying material, and the studying rhythm and time.
Autodidacts may or may not have formal education, and their study may be either a complement or an alternative to formal education.
Many notable contributions have been made by autodidacts.
What have "Credentials" become?
Were are always largely symbolic awards for accredited minimal standards?; And those who may claim "expertise" in certain fields? Isn't it true that the material is often just regurgitated "acceptable"information memorized by rote?
"Higher Education": Handing out Masters Degrees, PhDs, and other "accreditation" from an "Elite" educational sources like M&Ms -- IF you have the $$$, connections and "right" agenda to advance.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:07 am to Liberator
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Of rampant disobedience to God
Still, why were they murdering babies over this?
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:07 am to Liberator
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Who cares either way about "Scholars"?
The person I responded to make the claim that the vast majority of scholars accepted the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.
I asked him to support his claim.
Do you have reading comprehension issues as well?
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:09 am to Liberator
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What have "Credentials" become?
Were are always largely symbolic awards for accredited minimal standards?
Credentialism is the epitome of all thats wrong in our government and educational systems. Its a ruse to raise incompetent people into specialization.
But people crave structure because they don't trust themselves.
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