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re: "I refuse to be a slave to religion!"
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:13 pm to Azkiger
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:13 pm to Azkiger
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Recently? Almost none. Though, I did get caught up in questioning my faith while attending college and devoted so much of my time to looking into these sorts of things (as opposed to studying) that I nearly flunked out of my university for two semesters straight.
That’s interesting. I also walked away from the faith for a period of years. My problem was with the existence of evil. What, would you say, best describes your reason(s) for leaving the faith?
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:14 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Jesus of Nazareth isnt an idol.
He is if you worship him in place of God - in DIRECT contradiction to the First Commandment.
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I'll ask forgiveness for telling you to GFY.
It doesn't count if you're not truly repentant. And you just come across as yet another hypocritical Christian - full of hate, but paying lip service to God just in case.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:14 pm to CPTDCKHD
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My problem was with the existence of evil
I have no issue with it.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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To a progressive, Disagree = Hate.
They're pretty soft people.
Perpetually soft.
How "Disagreement" becomes "Hate" to Commie Ideologues is jumping TWO sharks.
They hole themselves up in an imaginary Ivory Tower, machine-gunning down opponents and spilling blood like they're up on an Omaha Beach pillbox.
When retaliated against with a simple challenge or imminent loss, they immediately toss the Ref Yellow Flag (not even the White Flag), claiming, "Trauma!!" and "Unnecessary Roughness.")
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:16 pm to Liberator
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Are you sure you know what true "hate" and "wrath" actually are?
Yes.
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Let me help...
An example *might* be mentally unstable ideologues who go way out of their way to kill, maim, and destroy lives for merely disagreeing with their positions. In other words, PSYCHOPATHS and SOCIOPATHS (in positions of Power.)
Hmmm...now where do those kinds of people usually dwell and stand politically or even religiously?
I'll pray for your soul.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:17 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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He is if you worship him in place of God - in DIRECT contradiction to the First Commandment.
So, who is Jesus to you?
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:17 pm to Liberator
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Perpetually soft.
How "Disagreement" becomes "Hate" to Commie Ideologues is jumping TWO sharks.
Its their propensity for drama. Words they don't know..
Hate
Racism
Transphobia
Woman.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:18 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Who's Lord?
That you feel compelled to ask shows that you are lost.
There is only One.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:18 pm to CPTDCKHD
My personal experience is kinda similar. I grew up in a very traditional Roman Catholic environment, but as I got older, the ritualistic and repetitive nature of it never really sunk in. I struggled with seeing people flock to pop up churches, and found myself at odds with the church on priests marrying, and other social issues. Now, I'm a faithful Catholic, but somewhat on my own terms. If that damns me to hell, so be it.
I believe that any religious devotion that satiates the innate human desire for spirituality and guides that individual into a life of ethics, charity, kindness, and sacrifice is a good thing. I dont care who your god is.
I believe that any religious devotion that satiates the innate human desire for spirituality and guides that individual into a life of ethics, charity, kindness, and sacrifice is a good thing. I dont care who your god is.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:19 pm to Liberator
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false teachings and compromises of God's Word and Laws
There's no way to get around this. You don't know that you're correct. You just think you are and rely on either your interpretation of it or, worse, someone else's.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:20 pm to CPTDCKHD
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No, it doesn’t.
Yes, it does. Anyone claiming that the resurrection is a historical fact is a charlatan.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:20 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Now, I'm a faithful Catholic, but somewhat on my own terms. If that damns me to hell, so be it.
We're given the ability to discern using intuition. Most people never use it. They're terrified of their own thoughts.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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There is only One.
Dont dodge. which one? since we dont have the basic intelligence to practice our religion properly, we need you to tell us who the correct God is, so that we may have salvation. you are our prophet, after all.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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That you worship an idol called Jesus, and not even on the Sabbath?
That's heresy, not a "gotcha".
What this is NOT: A "GOTCHA." By you.
Are you sure you know the definition of "heresy"?
WT -- sincere question; do you consider yourself a "Christian"?
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No, we're knowing you don't.
Is that how you rationalize your hate?
Try love.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:20 pm to Liberator
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Are you familiar with events at the time?
Yes. Seems like a lot to go through to justify murdering babies.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Props to you.
grew up in a cult, married and became southern baptist and then went to an independent church.
I don't want to ask too personal of questions, but was it difficult for you when you left the cult?
quote:This is well said and I appreciate the hell out of your response.
didn't find faith in any. They talked faith but preached legalism.
Faith is something you as an individual develop and its based on things you feel, learn and experience. Its also unique to the individual.
I find faith to be a verb, not a noun. Spiritual things allow you to overcome temporary material and superficial things. Its not too complicated.
We may not always see eye to eye on everything, but you have my respect and I always appreciate a good convo/debate with you.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:24 pm to Vacherie Saint
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which one?...you are our prophet, after all.
Wow, you really don't give a shite.
I guess it really doesn't matter as long as you're depending on those pedophile priests for your salvation.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:25 pm to saint tiger225
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but was it difficult for you when you left the cult?
No, we were raised in it, I never believed the doctrines that came from it. Was an offshoot of the "Jesus people" movement in the 60s. I was always a skeptic and still am, which is how I came to have my own personal beliefs, which I am extremely comfortable with.
I left the Southern Baptist Church I attended because they turned a mentally challenged black kid away. I was a softball ringer though.
Following rules and regulations have never made me a better human being. It just makes me a more obedient human being. I prefer to make my own mistakes, learn from them and grow.
My beliefs are a mix of Christianity, Buddhism, Tool and Carl Jung...lol.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 2/20/23 at 1:29 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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DisplacedBuckeye
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Anyone claiming that the resurrection is a historical fact is a charlatan.
Interesting interpretation of *documented* History, Mr Prosecution....
Question:
How many 2000 year old "Historical" facts can you point to that call FOUR separate witnesses that testifying to the same exact event?
Says WHO you ask??
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Matthew 27:38-54
Mark 15:27-39
Luke 23:35-49
John 19:23-34 describe the crucifixion and the people present and name some of them.
These passages from the four canonical gospels, however, give different accounts of the number of people present and their names.
Putting these accounts together, the following names can be found (or inferred):
1) Mary (Mariam), mother of Jesus.
2) Mary Magdalene
3) Joseph of Arimathea; probably a secret Judean disciple of The Messiah.
4) "the disciple whom Jesus loved", James; though his identity still a subject of considerable debate.
5) Nicodemus; probably also a secret Judean disciple
6) Salome
7) Mary of Clopas
8) Simon of Cyrene
Not named but inferred:
The centurion, (Longinus; the name is found in the pseudepigraphal Gospel of Nicodemus that was appended to the apocryphal Acts of Pilate).
Caiaphas, the Jewish high priest.
Annas, a high priest before whom Jesus is brought.
The rest are unnamed nor can be named: various kinds of crowds.
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