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re: "I refuse to be a slave to religion!"

Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:46 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:46 am to
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So we no longer have to abide by the Ten Commandments?


I don't mind killing if necessary.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:57 am to
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they needed an idol for the god to inhabit so that they could localize their god during worship


"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them."



Thank God we don't have to abide by the Olde Testament anymore.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:58 am to
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When did "faith" become a bad thing for Christians?


Only when / if certain denominations veer off into false teachings and compromises of God's Word and Laws. (i.e. Church "Apostates.")
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296951 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:59 am to
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"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness


Orthodox don't believe that.



The Church of Christ doesn't believe in musical instruments. They all see things their way.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:05 pm to
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Maybe atheists are right, maybe you are right. Maybe it’s the Jehovah’s witnesses or the Mormons who interpret it correctly.


That's what I find fascinating about aggressive atheists. By their worldview Christianity, even if 100% false, is every bit as valid a moral structure as whatever they've come up with in their head. All morality is subjective, so Muslims who circumcise little girls are just expressing a cultural preference; they're not really doing anything objectively wrong because there's no such thing. Take the most hillbilly, snake handling "God hates figs" "Christian" you like, and his moral code is just like yours; an opinion.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:07 pm to
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Thank God we don't have to abide by the Olde Testament anymore.


Hear ya (and your sarcasm)

The OT remains legit. And connects both Prophecies with the NT prophecies.

Dietary "Laws" are not the same as "Laws" like the ten Commandments.

Some people may be confused by OT events and laws that were laid down specifically to Israel, THE people God "chose" as His exclusionary examples of the
cautionary, heroic, cowardly, obedient/disobedient...and subjects of Reward and Punishment.

Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:10 pm to
You're also right on the the idols (aka statues of likeness.)

They are expressly and plainly declared verboten by Scripture. (Though the vatican / RCC is festooned with them.)
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296951 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:11 pm to
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Only when / if certain denominations veer off into false teachings and compromises of God's Word and Laws. (i.e. Church "Apostates.")


Mark 12:30-31
New International Version
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.
31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.”


Anything added to this is wrong.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:12 pm to
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What are you babbling about?


.....and I might ask this of you. Why do you continue to respond so defensively to my assertion? It's no secret there were those inclined to go the Monarchy route. Evidence of the uncertainty was revealed in the question Lady Elizabeth Powell asked Ben Franklin, "What have you given us, Mr. Franklin, a Republic or a Monarchy?" To which Ben Franklin replied,"A Republic madam, if you can keep it."

Why don't you just come out and say it? You believe the U.S. Consitution is a racist document drafted by a bunch of old white guys of European origin.



This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:13 pm to
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The message of the gospel is infinitely small

It's Love, Roger.

And you being one of he most hateful people on the board makes your pretend 'spirituality' a sick joke.

As a matter of fact, I find most of the so-called "Christians" on this board to be extremely hateful.
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:15 pm to
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presenting this as historical fact immediately removes any credibility you have.


No, it doesn’t. This is, typically, how an argument between an atheist, and a theist goes.
Atheist: “There’s no evidence for the existence of God.”
Theist: “Here’s some compelling evidence; compiled by and agreed upon by Christian and non-Christian experts in their respective fields.”
Atheist: “That’s not evidence. I don’t believe it.”
Rinse and repeat. All the while, the atheist is the one who can provide zero evidence to support his/her belief.
I can only submit the evidence. I can’t believe it for you. I wish I could.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296951 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:15 pm to
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And you being one of he most hateful people on the board


Interesting commie take. If I don't support handouts, I'm evil.

The message of opportunity and merit benefit humankind far more than your bleeding heart drivel. Only children take social media seriously.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 12:18 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296951 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:16 pm to
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Atheist: “That’s not evidence. I don’t believe it.”


Funny how they don't take this approach with other philosophies, or even interpretive history.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:19 pm to
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Anything added to this is wrong.


Yup.

Like adding political / gender identity and ideology to Scripture.

While...subtracting OTHER Scripture that condemns exactly how these Apostates are doing to the Church.

Think God will be fooled?



Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:20 pm to
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As a matter of fact, I find most of the so-called "Christians" on this board to be extremely hateful.


How so?
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296951 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:22 pm to
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As a matter of fact, I find most of the so-called "Christians" on this board to be extremely hateful.


Exactly how normal people feel about you bleeding hearts. You've had 60 years of war on poverty and you've done nothing but create generational poverty.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53783 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:23 pm to
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hamburgerquote:false gods

Religion is stupid.


Absolutely! What the world needs is more self absorbed atheists….that’ll make for a more functional and wholesome society.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:25 pm to
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The OT remains legit.

So you're saying we're still supposed to remember the Sabbath, and to keep it holy? We're not supposed to worship Jesus on the Cross? How about that pesky First one where we're not even supposed to elevate Jesus up to God's level?

Christians have quite obviously been led away from God.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Exactly how normal people feel about you bleeding hearts. You've had 60 years of war on poverty and you've done nothing but create generational poverty.


There is a yuge difference between "hating" certain policies and "hating" individual people.

Related tangent: Can't certain policies indeed be hurtful AND "hateful"?

The socialist either won't or can't make the connection - for whatever reason(s).
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