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re: How would Trump have fared if he was president 40 years ago?

Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:01 pm to
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last 40-50 years
I'd argue that the quality of life for most people has certainly improved during that time. Life was much better under Trump and his mean tweets. NOTHING has improved under bidet.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:04 pm to
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Life was not good in 2020. We lived under virtual martial law in the name of a common cold
This is true, but you can't blame covid on Trump. Not if you're honest anyway. Trump followed the advice of the "experts" (that proved to know nothing at all). I did as well. Wore that mask, stayed home and stayed 6 ft apart. What we need to compare is Jan 2017 thru Jan 2020 with Jan 2021 thru Jan 2024. NOTHING is better under bidet.

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Prior to that trump did almost nothing that he promised on the campaign trail, not that that’s anything new. But he certainly wasn’t different
I saw a wall being built INSPITE of the GOPe. Schumer said we didnt' have 8 Billion to build the wall, but we've had 150 BIllion to protect ukraines border. Gas prices down, inflation down, illegal immigration DOWN.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 4:08 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:07 pm to
What?

Do you believe spending wasn’t out of control then? Is it out of control now?

I was agreeing with that poster.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140571 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:11 pm to
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can't blame covid on Trump.


Of course not. He had zero control over anything.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Do you believe spending wasn’t out of control then?
Trump spent too much in 2020, but that was due to covid and democrats/GOPe (yes I repeat myself). If you take out 2020, spending was considerably less than bidet.
National Debt by Year In Oct
Oct 2017 - 20T
Oct 2018 - 21.5T
Oct 2019 - 22.7T 2.7T increase

Oct 2021 - 28.4T
Oct 2022 - 30.9T
Oct 2023 - 33.2T 4.8T increase
Posted by DivotBreath
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:14 pm to
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Trumps policies would have been received well but not his antics


40 years ago we did not have social media so Americans did not have instant access to every word. We also did not have to be inundated with opinions posted from every goofball with a keyboard and internet access.

Trump would have never grown into the phenomena that he is if everyone had to go read the newspaper or watch the evening news. It takes more effort now to avoid what passes as “news” than it used to take to actively seek the news.

The whole damn system is broken and both parties use it to their advantage. Wish we could get back to the old fashioned debates.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:15 pm to
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Of course not. He had zero control over anything.
Did you do what the "experts" recommended? Yes or No? If you did (like I did), you can't Monday morning quarterback someone else following the advice of experts. If you do, you're a hypocrite. But then, we both already knew you were. Didn't we?

We can blame covid on the little leprechaun fouchi. He funded the research that brought us covid-19...
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 4:17 pm
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:18 pm to
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It’s not Monday morning QB because people were saying at the time what a destructive agenda the whole convid thing was
So was I, however I went along with the "experts advice". Did you? If you did, you can't fault someone else for doing the same.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140571 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:20 pm to
Trump increased the debt every year. He spent more that the president before him which is wild.

Thankfully I lived in Florida. We didn’t have much to do with Fauchi after the first stir calmed down.

Ron replaced our Surgeon General and he made the commies mad.

Wish Trump would have sidelined Fauchi but the dems seemed to love him so he stayed on top. I bet Trump regrets that now. Especially giving him the medal. Geesh.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:24 pm to
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I didn’t take the genetic code injections either
Neither did I. However, I did stay home, wear the dang mask and stay 6 feet apart.
Problem with Monday morning quarterbacking is that I didn't believe the so called experts were right. I didn't believe the mask worked. I DID believe that the virus came from the wuhan lab. However, I still followed the "experts" advice in 2020. Because I was not an EXPERT on the subject. In 2021, I refused the vaccine because by that time the "experts" had been exposed.

We can't use the knowledge we have today to just the actions of people in 2020. We can judge the actions of those "experts" that were intentionally lying to us. For political gain.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 4:27 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140571 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:29 pm to
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I didn't believe the so called experts were right.


You did better than Trump.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:31 pm to


National Debt by Year In Oct
Oct 2017 - 20T
Oct 2018 - 21.5T
Oct 2019 - 22.7T 2.7T increase

Oct 2020 - 26.9 COVID-19 spending...

Oct 2021 - 28.4T
Oct 2022 - 30.9T
Oct 2023 - 33.2T 4.8T increase
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140571 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:32 pm to
What about 2012-2016?

Here ya go.

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2012 $16,066 Fiscal cliff 2013 $16,738 Sequester; government shutdown 2014 $17,824 QE ended; debt ceiling crisis 2015 $18,151 Oil prices fell 2016 $19,573 Brexit 2017 $20,245 Congress raised the debt ceiling


This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 4:34 pm
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:34 pm to
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You did better than Trump
Were you born an ARSE or have you been working on this your entire life?

Maybe when you grow up, you will be able to understand you can't fault other people for doing the very things you do. If you paid attention back then, Trump did not believe the experts either. However, he went along with what they, the media, the democrats and GOPe were pushing. Just like I did and I'd bet you did too.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:35 pm to
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What about 2012-2016?
I'm comparing bidet to Trump. That is the election we are facing in November. Here is the link if you'd like see the data for yourself. National Debt
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140571 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:36 pm to
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However, he went along with what they, the media, the democrats and GOPe were pushing


He sure did. And he he gave them a medal which was nice. I guess.

I’m sure Fauchi appreciated the recognition.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140571 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:37 pm to
I already looked at all the numbers.

I was surprised that Trump did more to increase the debt than Obama.

Biden is a complete disaster. No argument there.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:37 pm to
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He sure did. And he he gave them a medal which was nice. I guess.

I’m sure Fauchi appreciated the recognition.
It's easy to criticize on Monday morning. Did you follow the "guidelines" or not?
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:38 pm to
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Biden is a complete disaster. No argument there.
Why you being such a dick then?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140571 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:10 pm to
Why are you so riled up?

The facts presented have nothing to do with you.

If those facts upset you then just avoid them as usual. Geesh
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