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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:39 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:39 pm to
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why do we need the moon


We don’t. It is already claimed (by those who watch our progress...)
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:45 pm to
Who’s watching us?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:46 pm to
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What is your hypothesis on what the moon really is?


An augmented satellite that serves as an observatory. Placement/location points to some form of higher intelligence...

https://www.inverse.com/article/61521-mysterious-metal-detected-under-lunar-surface

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Scientists detected a metal "anomaly" deep beneath the lunar surface It's more likely to be from asteroids than benevolent aliens. lunar surface with metal anomaly
By Sarah Wells on December 14, 2019 Filed Under China, NASA & Science Fiction I


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n June 2019, scientists discovered something strange buried 180 miles beneath the lunar surface. While the discovery does sound eerily similar to the beginning of Stanley Kubrick’s film, 2001: A Space Odyssey, scientists have a much more scientific explanation for this particular anomaly. Instead of an alien monolith, scientists think that it is actually an estimated 4.8 quintillion pounds of metal — a deposit formed from leftover shrapnel from an asteroid impact.


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When we combined [that data] with lunar topography data from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, we discovered the unexpectedly large amount of mass hundreds of miles underneath the South Pole-Aitken basin,” James said. “One of the explanations of this extra mass is that the metal from the asteroid that formed this crater is still embedded in the Moon’s mantle.” Using computer simulations of an asteroid impact, the scientists determined that it would be possible for the iron-nickel core of such an asteroid to be dispersed into the upper lunar mantel (between its core and crust.)
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:46 pm to
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You obviously didnt watch “ a funny thing happened on the way to the moon”
Everyone has seen that farce.

There's nothing to refute. Just because some moron said it happened doesn't mean it did.

Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:46 pm to
Others...
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:53 pm to
I do especially like the theory that they put the camera at one end of the craft, shut off all the lights and looked at a cutout though.

I mean, there's like 1000 ways to fake the effect of the Earth being farther away from you than you claim it is...………...but yeah...…...they would have used the method a 5th grader would have used!!!

Ya know, if you want to claim to be a skeptic, you have to learn to apply your skepticism to things you wish to believe AT LEAST as much as you apply it to things you believe are false.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:53 pm to
You say this:
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Placement/location points to some form of higher intelligence...


But then your article (which you actually quoted) says this:

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It's more likely to be from asteroids than benevolent aliens


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scientists think that it is actually an estimated 4.8 quintillion pounds of metal — a deposit formed from leftover shrapnel from an asteroid impact.


What sort of logical leaps are you making to suggest that this implies some sort of higher intelligence when the article you referenced states the opposite?
Posted by DreauxB2015
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:55 pm to
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Just because some moron said it happened doesn't mean it did.




Some moron didnt say they did it . Video of them doing it shows they did it . Are you going to deny VIDEO of the frickery now ? Why ? Because you didnt watch it . Stop lying . Dude give it up , your all talk but when given evidence of NASA frickery you still grasp to the pearly nut sac that is NASA. You cant be helped .
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:57 pm to
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Are you going to deny VIDEO of the frickery now

Funny. Most of the people claiming conspiracy theories about NASA say it's all CGI

Who is to say your dumb video isn't also CGI?
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:58 pm to
To go off on a tangent here.

I do find that I'm conflicted regarding two things that seem to be statistical certainties that I cannot refute...………...yet, also, are demonstrably false.

It seems a statistical certainty that intelligent life should have arisen in multiple locales just within our galaxy alone.

And, if so, this means many of those places had intelligent life millions of not billions of years before us.

But, if this is true, then, where the frick are they? Yes. I know this isn't a paradox I invented. I do find it to be an interesting paradox though.

Is there really some "great filter" out there that simply prevents anyone from attaining that level of advancement?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:59 pm to
My thoughts are fully outlined in this thread

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/o-t-lounge/thanksgiving-is-time-for-the-official-8th-annual-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-thread/80343445/page-3/

Since you asked...



Why did he really want to go to the moon

Moon (may be artificial/hollow)





This leads to the curious phenomenon below:




If you are going to leave a definitive marker for higher intelligence/knowledge, put it where all will be able to see...


LINK

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The Moon is not a Natural Planet

This appears to be a quite ludicrous statement. How could we know the Moon is not a natural planet? The answer is that we know because it is too big, yet too light in mass; it is in the strangest position imaginable relative to the Sun and the Earth and it behaves in the most incredible way every month. What is more, it carries a whole series of quite specific messages that tell us it is an 'engineered' object.


The Moon is as old as the Earth and it has definitely been orbiting the Earth almost right from the start, so it can't be a captured asteroid but although it's made of the same 'stuff' as the Earth, it only contains carefully selected bits of that stuff.

The Moon's surface is covered with gravitational anomalies (MASCONs) that can't be easily explained and it could well be hollow at the centre (which all scientists who know about these things say should be impossible.)

The Moon is a deliberately created scale model of the Sun and it presently stands at a distance from the Sun and from the Earth which is totally outrageous in terms of the mathematical and physical results.

In fact there is very little about the Moon that isn't odd and which doesn't seem wrong for something that came into existence by chance.

I don't expect you to believe what I say just because I am saying it. I want to prove to you that the Moon was deliberately and extremely carefully engineered to do a host of jobs for the Earth.


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First Message - Eclipses

Solar Eclipse

Solar eclipses happen when the shadow of the Moon covers the surface of the Sun. Total solar eclipses are very impressive and for one important reason: when seen from the Earth the disc of the Moon is exactly the same size as that of the Sun. This isn't the case but is a line-of-site effect. In reality the Sun is much more massive than the Moon but is very much further away. Solar eclipses are a near miracle and they don't happen anywhere else in the solar system. The only reason they can occur is because of two factors. The Moon is 1/400th part the size of the Sun, and the Moon is capable of standing at a position 1/400th part of the distance between the Earth and the Sun. How unlikely is that? If any message incorporated into the Moon was specifically designed to say "Look at me more closely" it is solar ecilipses.

Second Message - the Scissoring of the Moon

Sun, Earth and Moon
It is a peculiar fact that when viewed from the Earth, the Moon and the Sun perform an elegant and most unlikely dance. At times when the Sun rises at dawn as far north as it can, the Moon sets as far south as is possible. Similarly, when the Sun rises at its extreme southern position, the Moon sets at its most northerly. The same is true of Sunset and Moonrise. Hardly anyone even realises that this takes place, let alone understands just how incredible it is. There is no mathematical rule or law of physics that says this should happen. It is simply a consequence of the Moon's orbit and positioning and yet as a random chance event it seems virtually miraculous.


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Mikhail Vasin, Alexander Shcherbakov,
Societ Academy of Sciences, 1970.
“Is the moon a creation of an alien intelligence?”


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Dr. Gordon MacDonald,
NASA
“it would seem that the Moon is more like a hollow than a homogenous sphere’. He surmised that the data must have been wrong – but it wasn’t.”


Carl Sagan,
Cosmologist,
“A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object.”


Dr. Sean C Solomon,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
“The Lunar Orbiter experiments had vastly improved knowledge of the Moon’s gravitational field and indicated the frightening possibility that the Moon might be hollow.”


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NASA scientists
The Apollo 12 mission to the Moon in November 1969 set up seismometers and then intentionally crashed the Lunar Module causing an impact equivalent to one ton of TNT. The shockwaves built up for eight minutes, and NASA scientists said the Moon ‘rang like a bell.


Maurice Ewing,
American geophysicist and oceanographer
“As for the meaning of it, I’d rather not make an interpretation right now, but it is as though someone had struck a bell, say, in the belfry of the a church a single blow and found that the reverberation from it continued for 30 minutes.”


Ken Johnson,
Supervisor of the Data and Photo Control department during the Apollo missions
“The Moon not only rang like a bell, but the whole Moon wobbled in such a precise way that it was almost as though it had gigantic hydraulic damper struts inside it.”



Dr. D L Anderson,
Professor of geophysics and director of the seismological laboratory,
California Institute of Technology
“The Moon is made inside out and that its inner and outer compositions should be the other way around.”




Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:01 pm to
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Some moron didnt say they did it .
No. Some idiot in the video asserts a thing is happening that has no actual evidence for their assertion actually being true.

Moreover, it's a silly assertion because there would be no reason to execute that particular ruse in the manner described.

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Are you going to deny VIDEO of the frickery now
What video frickery? They show you video...….then tell you something is happening...………….but they don't actually prove it is happening. There's nothing actually wrong with the video.

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your all talk but when given evidence of NASA frickery

People like you sincerely believe that only YOU can see the truth.

IT's cute.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:02 pm to
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Watch it then refute what i said .


Mythbusters did a whole episode doing just this.

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Clown


Resorting to namecalling implies you're conceding on the merits?


Look - I love a good conspiracy theory - some of my favorites include the JFK assassination and Roswell.

But that was kind of before my time. I lived through the Apollo program. None of this so-called evidence of the allegedly faked landings is compelling in the slightest. We've sent unmanned probes after the landings and they can film the sites.

Hell, the manned missions left equipment (laser reflectors) that can be pinged today from the Earth.

This thing started (as many do) as a massive troll that has gotten completely out of hand.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:02 pm to
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I do find that I'm conflicted regarding two things that seem to be statistical certainties that I cannot refute...………...yet, also, are demonstrably false. It seems a statistical certainty that intelligent life should have arisen in multiple locales just within our galaxy alone. And, if so, this means many of those places had intelligent life millions of not billions of years before us. But, if this is true, then, where the frick are they? Yes. I know this isn't a paradox I invented. I do find it to be an interesting paradox though. Is there really some "great filter" out there that simply prevents anyone from attaining that level of advancement?


Think more practically...

I do not think we are a zoo (in the strictest sense), but here is some mainstream speculation

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2019/03/18/are-we-in-a-galactic-zoo-protected-by-aliens-scientists-meet-to-investigate-the-great-silence/#66e4071c1ce7

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277,867 views|Mar 18, 2019,11:12 am

Are We In A 'Galactic Zoo' Protected By Aliens?
Scientists Meet To Investigate The 'Great Silence'

Jamie CarterContributor


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What is the Fermi Paradox and the “Great Silence?” Italian physicist Enrico Fermi asked ‘where is everybody?’ back in 1950 in what’s now called the Fermi Paradox. It addresses a contradiction in astronomy, and can be summarized thus: if extraterrestrial life and even intelligent alien civilizations are not just likely, but highly probable, then why have none of them been in contact with us? Are there biological or sociological explanations for this “Great Silence?” “We are very interested in the scientific approach used in the analysis of the Fermi Paradox and the search for intelligent life in the universe,” said Cyril Birnbaum and Brigitte David at the Cité des Sciences et de l’Industrie (Cité), the science museum in Paris that’s hosting today’s meeting. “The question ‘Are we alone?’ affects us all, because it is directly related to humanity and our place in the cosmos.”


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What are scientists doing in Paris? Today, leading researchers from the fields of astrophysics, biology, sociology, psychology, and history are meeting at the Cité. “Every two years, METI International (METI stands for messaging extraterrestrial intelligence) organizes a one-day workshop in Paris as part of a series of workshops entitled What is Life? An Extraterrestrial Perspective,” said Florence Raulin Cerceau, co-chair of the workshop and a member of METI’s Board of Directors. The scientists are discussing some pretty insane-sounding questions:

Are extraterrestrials staying silent out of concern for how contact would impact humanity? Do we live in a “galactic zoo?”

Should we send intentional radio messages to nearby stars to signal humanity’s interest in joining the “galactic club?”

Will extraterrestrial intelligence be similar to human intelligence?

Did life get to earth from elsewhere in the galaxy (interstellar migration)?


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What is the “zoo hypothesis”? This is a mind-warping idea that there are alien civilizations out there (no, not on Oumuamua) that know all about us, but purposefully hide from us. It certainly explains the “Great Silence.” “Perhaps extraterrestrials are watching humans on Earth, much like we watch animals in a zoo,” explains Douglas Vakoch, president of METI. “How can we get the galactic zookeepers to reveal themselves?” At a workshop, Vakoch proposed that humans should be more active in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. “If we went to a zoo and suddenly a zebra turned toward us, looked us in the eye, and started pounding out a series of prime numbers with its hoof, that would establish a radically different relationship between us and the zebra, and we would feel compelled to respond,” he said. It’s hard to disagree with that. “We can do the same with extraterrestrials by transmitting powerful, intentional, information-rich radio signals to nearby stars,” he said.


How is this for a synchronicity...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofz0iJQd-xU

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Who's Behind the Door? by Zebra HD 775,766 views


There are some Masonic themes in the video







We sailed away
We walked 2 thousand miles
and then we slipped away
We looked so hard
But couldn't seem to find just what
the world was for
Now we know
Just what the journey's for

Looking out to the stars
Think about what you are
What do they think of you
Animals in their zoo
They haven't got the time
Landing's not on their minds
How do they have the nerve
We're animals in preserve

They watch us all
They're only making sure that we
don't trip and fall
Now they look so hard
But they can't tell us why they're
here and just what for
Because they don't know
Who opened up the door


How can we find out more
Who owns the keyless door
Where does the circle end
Who are the unwatched men
Where do we go from here
Faith is a fading fear
Life is a waiting room
I hope they don't call me soon

How much more do you really
think you know than a flower
does about who's behind the door!

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What is the “galactic quarantine” theory? Think the “zoo hypothesis” theory is insane? That’s nothing compared to another theory about alien benevolence. “It seems likely that extraterrestrials are imposing a ‘galactic quarantine’ because they realize it would be culturally disruptive for us to learn about them,” said Jean-Pierre Rospars, the honorary research director at the Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique and co-chair of the workshop. “Cognitive evolution on Earth shows random features while also following predictable paths … we can expect the repeated, independent emergence of intelligent species in the universe, and we should expect to see more or less similar forms of intelligence everywhere, under favorable conditions,” he added. “There’s no reason to think that humans have reached the highest cognitive level possible. Higher levels might evolve on Earth in the future and already be reached elsewhere.”


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Why aliens could be very different from humans Why should they be even remotely similar? “The environment on an exoplanet will impose its own rules,” said Roland Lehoucq, an astrophysicist who works at the Commissariat à l’Énergie Atomique (CEA). “There is no trend in biological evolution: the huge range of various morphologies observed on Earth renders any exobiological speculation improbable, at least for macroscopic ‘complex’ life.” Skeptical that humans would have much in common with extraterrestrial life forms, Lehocq discussed “our persistent anthropocentrism in our understanding and description of alien life” and how difficult it is for humans to imagine extraterrestrial intelligence radically different from ourselves.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:03 pm to
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Funny. Most of the people claiming conspiracy theories about NASA say it's all CGI Who is to say your dumb video isn't also CGI?


You should watch the part he wants you to see

They basically show the video of Earth from a distance...……...then, make assertions regarding the conversation without any real evidence...……….then, basically say, "no, you're not seeing X, you're really seeing Y"

They aren't actually providing any EVIDENCE. They're just making an assertion while watching a video.
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:09 pm to
lol , Except when the lights come on the entire window with insert removed the entire window is filled with earth light not a small ball earth thousands of miles away like it was in the dark . They were supposedly 3 days from earth right ? . Try harder man .
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 11:18 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170324 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:15 pm to
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The Moon is 1/400th part the size of the Sun, and the Moon is capable of standing at a position 1/400th part of the distance between the Earth and the Sun. How unlikely is that?

One problem here is that this math makes no sense

It's the diameter that has a ratio of 400

Which would mean that the ratio of radii would also be 400

In our viewpoint which would be relatively 2 dimensional we'd be looking at approximate circles so to speak.

The apparent size of those circles would differ by the squares of the radii thus making this whole coincidence not a damn coincidence at all. You'd be talking about a 160,000 ration in apparent area, not 400.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:16 pm to
They should drop off little Marco Rubio during the trip.

Just leave him there to man the moon base.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:20 pm to
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lol , Except when the lights come on the entire window with insert removed the entire window is filled with earth light not a small ball earth thousands of miles away like it was in the dark
Just because the idiots narrating tell you this is what you're seeing doesn't mean it's what you're seeing.

But, you're an idiot, so, you can only absorb what you already wanted to absorb and your skepticism gene apparently is busted.

Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7908 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:35 pm to
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Just because the idiots narrating tell you this is what you're seeing doesn't mean it's what you're seeing.


Oh the irony here . Yea my eyes are lying to me now . What Im seeing isnt really what Im seeing .Small ball earth in the dark and a window filled with earth shine when lights are on .



NASA narrates an event . Oh , it looks like bs but hey its NASA . They wouldnt lie to me . Then your given evidence they punked you and this isnt what it looks like . My eyes are lying to me . All hail NASA.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 11:39 pm
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