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re: How three conspiracy theorists took 'Q' and sparked Q-anon

Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:57 pm to
Lol.. Qtard admin strikes again
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Lol.. Qtard admin strikes again


What a time to be alive.
Posted by The deucer
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Right. Conspiracy theorists aren't anywhere near rational No amount of evidence that it's just a conspiracy will convince them at this point


You ever tried reversing that logic?

Who is it that determines whether something is a conspiracy or not? Do you just lump all conspiracy theories together once a topic has been given that title?

If someone looks at evidence and challenges the accepted line of thinking on a particular subject, that has no bearing on any other unrelated subject. If I don’t believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and shot Kennedy, that doesn’t mean I think the lochness monster is real.

You state that conspiracy theorists “aren’t anywhere near rational”. Care to expand on that? I have yet to see a single publication on Q that goes into what evidence has been presented amongst the anons that lead them to believe there is validity. It’s nothing but name calling hit pieces. There is a reason they won’t dive into the specifics...........and it’s because they are damning.

But go ahead...... keep believing “conspiracy theorists” are irrational. Your logic appears to be extremely flawed, however. Take away everything above this sentence and just concentrate on the following:

People who don’t question things, and accept what they are told, are rational thinkers. Those who look at all evidence/info for themselves, before determining their own opinion, are irrational thinkers.


Does that make sense to you?

This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:22 pm to
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Who is it that determines whether something is a conspiracy or not?


Objective reality. It's objective reality that determines whether something is a conspiracy or not.

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I have yet to see a single publication on Q that goes into what evidence has been presented amongst the anons that lead them to believe there is validity.


There's no need to prove the negative on wacky conspiracy theories. They have no proof except what their fevered brains concoct to keep the lie alive.

Posted by The deucer
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:36 pm to
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Objective reality. It's objective reality that determines whether something is a conspiracy or not.


Wrong answer


Ideas and truths are subjective. Meaning that each individual is responsible for how they come to their own opinion.

Just because someone else forces a narrative down your throat does not make it the truth.

Looking at all available evidence/info on hand before determining your conclusion on a subject is logical.

Letting someone else tell you what to believe is not logical.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:54 pm to
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Ideas and truths are subjective.


That's not true. Gravity pulls you to the center of large objects, the sky is blue, and your hand cannot pass through a wall unimpeded.

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Meaning that each individual is responsible for how they come to their own opinion.


So long as they understand that it's their opinion, and likely wrong instead of fact, sure.

But when you come to your opinion merely because it fits your political worldview or satisfies some deep-seated anxiety in you, like the QAnon idiots, then you can't claim it's a fact. It's just your fricked up head being fricked up.

Posted by The deucer
Member since Apr 2018
1423 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:10 pm to
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That's not true. Gravity pulls you to the center of large objects, the sky is blue, and your hand cannot pass through a wall unimpeded.


Gravity is still just a theory, not a fact. Skyscrapers, elephants, shipping containers, etc.....all large objects. Yet, I have never been pulled towards one. What color is the sky to someone who is color blind? What color is the sky at night?

I just wanted to counter your statements real quick to prove they weren’t 100% accurate.

In all honesty, I can clearly see you aren’t able to distinguish objective from subjective. Due to that, I realize any further attempts to prove my point will probably fall upon deaf ears. Have a good day.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:17 pm to
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BamaATL


Womp, womp.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Gravity is still just a theory, not a fact


The workings of gravity are a theory - that it occurs at all is not really in doubt.

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Skyscrapers, elephants, shipping containers, etc.....all large objects. Yet, I have never been pulled towards one.


They're not particularly large on the scale needed, and yet yes you still have. All objects exert a gravitational pull, some larger than others.

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What color is the sky to someone who is color blind?


Blue. That they can't see its true color doesn't negate this objective fact.

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What color is the sky at night?


The absence of light is not a color.

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I just wanted to counter your statements real quick to prove they weren’t 100% accurate.


Try harder next time, since you didn't succeed this time!

Go back to drinking your Qool-aid, champ.
Posted by The deucer
Member since Apr 2018
1423 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:39 pm to
This is absolutely laughable



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The workings of gravity are a theory - that it occurs at all is not really in doubt


Just because something occurs doesn’t mean your reasoning for the occurrence is correct. You stated that gravity pulls things to the center of large objects. However, objects are able to float on water. Density and buoyancy determines that. But gravity is supposed to pull it down, no?

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Blue. That they can't see its true color doesn't negate this objective fact. The absence of light is not a color


You just contradicted yourself. You stated the sky was blue. You then state the absence of light is not a color. Light and wavelengths determines the color in which a person perceives. Therefore, at night, the sky is not blue.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:53 pm to
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You stated that gravity pulls things to the center of large objects. However, objects are able to float on water. Density and buoyancy determines that. But gravity is supposed to pull it down, no?


Density and gravity aren't antithetical - that's why you don't go through the earth to the core, because you are less dense than rock.

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You stated the sky was blue.


Because it is.

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You then state the absence of light is not a color.


Because it isn't.

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Light and wavelengths determines the color in which a person perceives.


Light and wavelengths determine the color a thing is - whether we can perceive it or not is a function of our own independent biology. But, when you asked about night, you forgot that at night there is no light brightening the sky.

I mean, I'm not sure what I expected from the type of fricking idiot that thinks QAnon is real, but you're dumb as shite.
Posted by The deucer
Member since Apr 2018
1423 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 4:32 pm to
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Density and gravity aren't antithetical - that's why you don't go through the earth to the core, because you are less dense than rock.


Therefore, one could simply replace gravity with density and buoyancy. After all, gravity is merely a theory.

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Light and wavelengths determine the color a thing is - whether we can perceive it or not is a function of our own independent biology. But, when you asked about night, you forgot that at night there is no light brightening the sky.


I didn’t forget at all. You said the sky was blue. I asked what color the sky was at night. I’m not asking what color night is. The sky is the sky. You said it was blue. At night, the sky is not blue.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:39 am to
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Therefore, one could simply replace gravity with density and buoyancy.


That's not how it works. At all.

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You said the sky was blue


It is, when provided light by the sun. At night, lacking said light, it lacks color.
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