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How McCain Got the Dossier According to Simpson

Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:53 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16991 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:53 pm
Here's Simpson describing how McCain got involved with the dossier.

quote:

SIMPSON: At some point a few weeks after the election Chris [Steele] called me and said that he had received an inquiry from David Kramer, who was a long-time adviser to Senator McCain, and that according to -- Kramer told Chris that he had run into Sir Andrew Wood at a security conference in Halifax, Nova Scotia and that Kramer was accompanying Senator McCain to this conference and that the three of them had had an unscheduled or unplanned encounter where the issue of this research was discussed and the essence of it, I guess, was conveyed to Senator McCain and to David Kramer from Andrew Wood.


Just for clarification. Andrew Wood is a former British ambassador to Russia. He now works in the private sector and as been involved with things like the British-Russian Chamber of Commerce, etc.

What Simpson is saying here is that McCain and his aide (Kramer) just happened by pure accident to run into Andrew Wood at a conference in Halifax where the dossier was brought up. Kramer later decided to follow up on it and contacted Chris Steele himself in order to try and score a copy of it for McCain.

Simpson continues:

quote:

So Chris asked me do you know David Kramer, and I said yes, I've known David Kramer for a long time. David Kramer is part of a small group of people that I'm sort of loosely affiliated with. We've all worked on Russia and are very concerned about kleptocracy and human rights and the police state that Russia has become, in particular the efforts of the Russians to corrupt and mess with our political system.

[He goes into a spiel about how he and Kramer think Russia is evil, so I am snipping it for brevity]

So I told Chris he's legit. David [Kramer] is someone I've known for a long time and he knows a lot about these issues and he's very concerned about Putin and the Kremlin and the rise of the new Russia and criminality and kleptocracy. So he said, well, can we trust him? And I said yes, I think we can trust him. He says he wants information to give to Senator McCain so that Senator McCain can ask questions about it at the FBI, with the leadership of the FBI. That was essentially -- all we sort of wanted was for the government to do its job and we were concerned about whether the information that we provided previously had ever, you know, risen to the leadership level of the FBI. We simply just didn't know.

[He continues here saying how badly he and Steele wanted the FBI to investigate. I am skipping it for brevity]

QUESTION: Did Mr. Steele represent to you that Orbis or Mr. Wood had initiated this contact with Mr. Kramer and Mr. McCain to share the dossier information?

SIMPSON: Well, that has two parts on that question. I think I can answer the first part which I think answers the second. Anyway, he did not describe this as having been initiated by Orbis. He described this as a chance encounter at a security conference where, you know, someone who had some knowledge of these matters shared it with Senator McCain and David Kramer and that caused David Kramer to follow up with Chris and that it was passive. In other words, it was initiated by Mr. Kramer.


Now the Congressional staffer is about to lay the boom:

quote:


QUESTION: According to the official attendee list for that conference, Mr. Akhmetshin was also there. To the best of your knowledge, was he involved in any capacity in the effort to discuss the dossier information with Mr. Kramer and Mr. McCain?

SIMPSON That's the first time I've received that information. So I don't have any knowledge.


In case you don't know, Akhmetshin is one of the Russians who met Don Jr. on June 9th at Trump Tower. And he just happened to be at this conference rubbing shoulders with McCain? I mean the media played it up as if this guy and the lady lawyer were two agents of Putin and that the meeting proved "collusion" with Trump. Remember that? And now this Russian guy is at a conference in Canada with McCain and many other prominent globalists? Pure coincidence, I say! Not only that but Simpson admitted in previous testimony that he had dinners with the lady lawyer and Akhmetshin the day before and the day after their meeting with Junior. Yet he didn't know Akhmetshin was at this conference with McCain?

By the way, you can see videos from the conference on YouTube. Pretty much every speaker got up there and bashed Trump endlessly. Said he was a Russian. Said Russia is taking over the world and we must "defend democracy." They played videos about how evil Brexit is, how dumb Trump voters are, and how awful Germany's AfD is. They kept talking about how great endless immigration is and how we need more of it. They all seemed concerned that nationalism and populism was interfering with their plan for a world government. These are the types of people that were at the conference, in case you're wondering.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6565 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:56 pm to
Sounds like a lot of hearsay. If none of those people mentioned have testified before the committee yet, it sounds like they know how to answer.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:58 pm to
McCain had it BEFORE the election.
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

McCain had it BEFORE the election.

I don't think that's true. Where did you see that?
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 5:27 pm to
McCain is so senile and hates TRUMP so much that he probably wrote the Dossier.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35362 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Yet he didn't know Akhmetshin was at this conference with McCain?
Why would he? He wasnt there. He didn't talk to anyone else who attended the conference.
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