re: How long before the Democratic Party gets its shite back together?

[quote]Dems have some work to do on the state level. There in already a big push to take back state governments in places like MI and OH and WI and PA (although PA already has a Dem governor). [/quote

hahahahahahahahahaha

They are worse off than any time in the last 80 years.

I hope they agree with you.

One well timed false flag event could do it

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The Democratic Party has gone so far left, many of their loyal party members have abandoned them. Meanwhile, the Republican party has moved more towards the middle, thus capturing that segment of Americans.

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I couldn't DISAGREE with you more. Dead wrong.

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Also, most Americans are sick and tired of the fricking political correctness and racist rhetoric coming from the left. The Democrats have now limited themselves to minorities and women/cucks who vote on emotion and not issues.

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I couldn't AGREE with you more. Spot on.

Won't be long, unfortunately..

Republicans/conservatives in office rarely - if ever - roll back any of the progressive horse shite that Democrats push through. On the other hand, any time Democrats get in power they keep pushing and pushing their agenda until America finally just gets fed up with it and enough people vote them out temporarily.

It's a ratchet.. even if trump undoes some of obama's agenda, they'll eventually get enough people to vote for someone who pushes obama's agenda into a whole new stratosphere

hopefully never

If the Hilbots are upset they have no one to blame but themselves.

The Democratic Party will never be as it was. The Clintons have destroyed it.

The Democratic Party was at its strongest when it supported workers, Unions and social programs/actions like:

1. The Minimum wage
2. Child Labor laws
3. 40 hour work week
4. The NLRB
5. Social Security
6. Medicare/Medicaid
7. Head start
8. Strong national defense.

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When unions mattered, prosperity was shared


By E.J. Dionne Jr.
Monday, September 6, 2010

Only 12.3 percent of American wage and salary workers belong to unions, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, down from a peak of about one-third of the work force in 1955. A movement historically associated with the brawny workers in auto, steel, rubber, construction, rail and the ports now represents more employees in the public sector (7.9 million) than in the private sector (7.4 million). Even worse than the falling membership numbers is the extent to which the ethos animating organized labor is increasingly foreign to American culture. The union movement has always been attached to a set of values -- solidarity being the most important, the sense that each should look out for the interests of all. This promoted other commitments: to mutual assistance, to a rough-and-ready sense of equality, to a disdain for elitism, to a belief that democracy and individual rights did not stop at the plant gate or the office reception room....





All but forgotten is the fact that our nation's extraordinary prosperity from the end of World War II to the 1970s was in significant part the result of union contracts that, in words the right wing hated Barack Obama for saying in 2008, "spread the wealth around." A broad middle class with spending power to keep the economy moving created a virtuous cycle of low joblessness and high wages.

Between 1966 and 1970, as Gerald Seib pointed out last week in the Wall Street Journal, the United States enjoyed an astonishing 48 straight months in which the unemployment rate was at or below 4 percent. No, the unions didn't do all this by themselves. But they were important co-authors of a social contract that made our country fairer, richer and more productive."

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Bears repeating:

Even worse than the falling membership numbers is the extent to which the ethos animating organized labor is increasingly foreign to American culture.

Do you think "they" will ever pay you what you are worth? -- No, they NEVER will. That it is why organized labor and collective bargaining is SO important.

I had an acquaintance that worked 30 years at various GM plants. That shite is not easy work. If your job is to bolt in the back seats of cars, you do it for 2.5 - 3 hours with no break. Then you get a 15 minute break. A bit later you have lunch, then back on the line for another 2-5 hour or so stint. Do you like coffee? Better not have that second cup, because you are not going to the BR until your break.

And "they" can set the line to move at 40 seconds or 60 seconds or 80 seconds. Get used to it. It is absolutely true that the UAW bargained themselves into such great perks that people generally changed their attitudes about Unions, cushy, not much work, counter intuitive attitudes ("That's not my job").

I don't go on this rant much, but people have been programmed to not like things that would help them economically.

If the Dems keep running campaigns by committee, rig their internal candidate support viz a viz Schultz and continue to do a hatchet job on the opponent without addressing issues, they'll continue to be the first loser.

Don't be deceived. The pukes were the party that was disappearing and disconnected from the public before the Trump "upset". The majority has flipped (goberment rule vs individual responsibility for one's life). Overnight is is reversed? I don't think so. All they have to do is table a legitimate candidate and they win in 4 years.

Hopefully, the SC situation hurts their cause long term.

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Don't be deceived. The pukes were the party that was disappearing and disconnected from the public before the Trump "upset". The majority has flipped (goberment rule vs individual responsibility for one's life). Overnight is is reversed? I don't think so. All they have to do is table a legitimate candidate and they win in 4 years.

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Looking at the states as well as congress I could not disagree with you more.

The presidency is a popularity contest between two individuals, the rest of the spectrum gives a much clearer view of party alignment in my opinion.