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re: How are you remembering Union Soldiers that died in the Civil War
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:17 pm to beerJeep
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:17 pm to beerJeep
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The vast majority of German soldiers were the exact same as the Americans. The British. The Canucks. The ruskies. And everyone else. Just normal arse dudes taken from their homes to fight another man's war.
Well...not exactly. The German soldiers who plunged into Poland in 1939 couldn't have been under any illusion why they were attacking Poland. Poland was weak. It had things the Germans wanted so it was okay just to take them.
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:19 pm to SavageOrangeJug
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Go to a National Cemetery. The POW graves are awarded the same respect and honor as are our soldiers.
That wouldn't be appropriate on Memorial Day.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:19 pm to beerJeep
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The vast majority of German soldiers were the exact same as the Americans. The British. The Canucks. The ruskies. And everyone else. Just normal arse dudes taken from their homes to fight another man's war.
Exactly.
One thing my Dad said stuck with me. "We were lucky. We knew what we were coming home to."
The German soldiers had no idea where their families were or if they were even still alive. They had no idea if their homes were still there. Especially those whose families were trapped in the Russian controlled areas of Germany.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:21 pm to Doc Fenton
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You're focusing entirely on (4) to support your claim of racism, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that my posts were in support of the idea of full enfranchisement phased in over a generation or two--something which I noted did not happen after the Civil War.
You said it was okay to fight against an outcome that might make a district majority black.
That is racist.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:21 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Well...not exactly. The German soldiers who plunged into Poland in 1939 couldn't have been under any illusion why they were attacking Poland. Poland was weak. It had things the Germans wanted so it was okay just to take them.
Did you hear that wooshing sound? That was the sound of what I said going right over your head.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:24 pm to Doc Fenton
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The Articles of Confederation were a confederate union that required unanimous consent of the sovereign states.
Flatly false as the graphic shows.
The states that adopted the Articles are named. They pledged perpetual union.
Don't you get tired of being caught in lies?
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Yet RI & NC were left behind without having given their consent. This was the point that Jefferson Davis emphasized.
Immaterial.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:24 pm to WhiskeyPapa
You're hopeless. 
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:25 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Go smoke a blunt dude. You're going to kill yourself over this topic.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:25 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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That wouldn't be appropriate on Memorial Day.
The German flags are placed during Volkstrauertag, the German National Day of Remembrance. German Memorial Day so to speak.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:26 pm to beerJeep
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Well...not exactly. The German soldiers who plunged into Poland in 1939 couldn't have been under any illusion why they were attacking Poland. Poland was weak. It had things the Germans wanted so it was okay just to take them.
Did you hear that wooshing sound? That was the sound of what I said going right over your head.
My point remains. The German soldiers knew they were going to frick up Poland just because they could.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:26 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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The states that adopted the Articles are named. They pledged perpetual union.
Do you really not see the problem for your argument here?
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:26 pm to SavageOrangeJug
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That wouldn't be appropriate on Memorial Day.
The German flags are placed during Volkstrauertag, the German National Day of Remembrance. German Memorial Day so to speak.
Who does that? What agency?
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:27 pm to SiloamHog
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The CSA was the biggest enemy us Americans have ever faced. And defeated. I would never fly an enemy nations flag, no matter what my heritage is.
Wow, talk about self indulgent and thinking you are a lot more high brow than you are. Especially with the instant judgement of anyone who flies both flags are hypocrites without even a conversation.
Then this gem.
I'm not a Confederate flag waver, but I do have an appreciation for real history. Not the revisionist safe space one.
The mentality back then was the United States were a series of quasi independent association of states. See: 10th Amendment. Outside of clearly defined federal responsibilities, the states were supreme.
From 1776 the discussion of the legality of succession was gone over but never settled. The Confederacy didn't seek to attack the US, did not seek to control the US. They just wanted to go their own way and control their own destiny.
How on earth make them the greatest enemy the US ever faced? It was Lincoln's steadfast position that the Union stays whole that caused the war.
I'm not saying which position is right or wrong, but those be the facts.
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:27 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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It might have been easy to go to Canada but it was also right.
You have a warped sense of right and wrong. Your cowardice in running to Canada only meant somebody else had to take your place. There was nothing right about it.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:30 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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My point remains. The German soldiers knew they were going to frick up Poland just because they could.
We are not talking about the German high command.
We are discussing the average German Soldier. The grunt. The guy who does what he's told to do or faces court-martial.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:31 pm to Doc Fenton
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The states that adopted the Articles are named. They pledged perpetual union.
Do you really not see the problem for your argument here?
I see you for the liar that you are.
Do you really not see the problem for your argument here?
George Washington, 9/17/87:
In all our deliberations on this subject we kept steadily in our view, that which appears to us the greatest interest of every true American, the consolidation of our Union, in which is involved our prosperity, felicity, safety, perhaps our national existence. This important consideration, seriously and deeply impressed on our minds, led each state in the Convention to be less rigid on points of inferior magnitude, than might have been otherwise expected; and thus the Constitution, which we now present, is the result of a spirit of amity, and of that mutual deference and concession which the peculiarity of our political situation rendered indispensible."
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The greatest interest of every true American - remains - the consolidation of our national union.
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:33 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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The German soldiers knew they were going to frick up Poland just because they could.
And my point remains. They served. Or they and their families died.
The Germans in concentration camps knew what they were doing. But the majority were ordinary men who did what they did because if they didn't, it would be done to them and their families.
You really should do some research on the topic. There have been studies and studies on this. Men are more than willing to do absolutely horrible things to others under the threat of it happening to them.
Are you saying that if I had a gun to your child's head, your wife's head, your parents and siblings. And told you either you execute this innocent man in front of you, or I'll kill all of your family. Then you. Then kill the innocent, are you saying you wouldn't do it?
Of course not. You'd gladly put that bullet between the innocent man's eyes to save your own skin and the lives of your family.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:35 pm to SavageOrangeJug
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My point remains. The German soldiers knew they were going to frick up Poland just because they could.
We are not talking about the German high command.
We are discussing the average German Soldier.
Exactly. I have not been unclear on that.
Germans executing Polish civilians
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:35 pm to WhiskeyPapa
And you'd be the one pulling the trigger in that picture. You can act holier than thou all you want. You're human. Same as any. And you'd do that to save your own life.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:36 pm to SiloamHog
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fought against the flag i love
so weird to read that. the flag you love?
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