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re: Homosexuality not caused by genetics. They ar not "born that way ETA Addit link added

Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:05 pm to
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For the people ITT that feel they must reconcile their beliefs on homosexuality with their religious beliefs,

Who are you referring to?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:07 pm to
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Exactly here is a list of all genetic problems known at birth:

Why are you asking me to review those conditions?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:08 pm to
Because I'm lazy and responded to the last post that was in the thread?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:08 pm to
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I'll bet he agrees with the fact there are not glaciers covering Manhattan Island.
I'll bet he agrees with the fact our climate has warmed since there were glaciers covering Manhattan Island.




of course!

I posted the Jesse meme with a little 'tongue in cheek' in mind.

I been around the block more than once in 'nature/nurture' threads citing twin studies.
So, I know that there are some rebuttals to those twin studies, as you quickly pointed out.





Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:09 pm to
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Nice straw man.




How so? You can't tell someone's gay just by looking at them especially not when they are babies
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:10 pm to
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Because I'm lazy and responded to the last post that was in the thread?


'K.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42842 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:10 pm to
But homosexuality is not on that list of "genetic" defects.

Certainly, if they had absolute proof it was and could cite they underlying problems they would put it on that list as being a "genetic" problem, right?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42842 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:11 pm to
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But homosexuality is not on that list of "genetic" defects. Certainly, if they had absolute proof it was and could cite they underlying problems they would put it on that list as being a "genetic" problem, right?
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:12 pm to
We've all seen the feminine guys, etc. so there's no doubt in my mind that genetics can play a role in determining sexual preference. I don't doubt his data relative to the twin studies but objectively twin studies by their very nature are a limited sample size. I also believe that environment might be much more of a factor than homosexuals and their liberal progressive proponents are willing to admit.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:13 pm to
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How so? You can't tell someone's gay just by looking at them especially not when they are babies


Is there any way to test for conditions like dyslexia or having the gey? Would it show in genetic testing?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:13 pm to
I don't think that genetics plays a role in the feminine guys. I think their bodies just produce more estrogen tbh.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Certainly, if they had absolute proof it was and could cite they underlying problems they would put it on that list as being a "genetic" problem, right?

I agree. I'm not in the "its genetic" camp.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42842 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:14 pm to
Then why say it's genetic if there's no way to test it?

That's my main question. And I've been asking it for 2 pages.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20486 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:15 pm to
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quote:
Like most things, it's a choice.


Link?
if you need a link for basic logic there's no hope for you
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:15 pm to
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Then why say it's genetic if there's no way to test it? That's my main question. And I've been asking it for 2 pages.
In those 2 pages, I've never implied it was.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42842 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:17 pm to
Sorry Dale. I was trying to reply to Dire Wolf. One Margarita into this day and I'm acting like this?

I may need to slow down.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22045 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:20 pm to
All I know is that pretty much every gay person I've known, it was obvious pretty early in their life... at least in hindsight. Whether it's genetic or not I am in favor of treating it as though it is outside of their control.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:21 pm to
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Sorry Dale. I was trying to reply to Dire Wolf. One Margarita into this day and I'm acting like this? I may need to slow down.

No problem! Margarita...mmMMmmmmm....
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61656 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:36 pm to
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Real unbiased website you have here.


People keep bringing up the website or the guy who published it, but that is pretty immaterial. It is the study that matters more than the web site it was posted on.

We can't actually find the study, so that might shed some doubt...but the publisher does not shed the doubt.
If you want to doubt because the publisher is doubtful, ok....but that proves nothing in and of itself. The proof of it being valid or invalid is in the study itself.
The National Enquirer has published some scandals that have turned out to be true. Not a good source, but the scandals were true nonetheless.

I believe it was the National Enquirer that broke the John Edwards love child story. None of the MSM would accept it or report it, but it turned out to be true.

(This in no way insinuates I get my news from the National Enquirer, though)
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39916 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:36 pm to
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All I know is that pretty much every gay person I've known, it was obvious pretty early in their life... at least in hindsight. Whether it's genetic or not I am in favor of treating it as though it is outside of their control.




This is where I am at. It was pretty obvious from a very young age where my cousin was going with his life.

I am not scientist but of the handful of gay people I know, I have never met one that felt they had a "choice".
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