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re: Help me prove my bro in law wrong...Covid

Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:00 am to
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2486 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:00 am to
I'm confused about the whole mask thing---reading so much on both sides. If masks are effective, why are they emptying prisons instead of just making them wear masks?

Does anyone here with actual medical knowledge of it, know if wearing a cloth mask that has the pocket where you slide in disposable carbon 5-layer filters make them more effective? It seems likely but what do I know...not much.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36886 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:15 am to
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I'm confused about the whole mask thing---reading so much on both sides. If masks are effective, why are they emptying prisons instead of just making them wear masks?


Nothing to do with masks. All about politics and money.
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Does anyone here with actual medical knowledge of it, know if wearing a cloth mask that has the pocket where you slide in disposable carbon 5-layer filters make them more effective? It seems likely but what do I know...not much.
Got some on order with additional filters on back order. Washable and reusable. I have some N95s that I wear. Then I put them out in the sun for at least 2 hours for the uv to kill anything that's in them. I'm old and don't need this crap, though. So, maybe I'm overly careful. Plus I don't get out much.
Posted by Pooka
Member since Jun 2020
61 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:26 am to
Masks help prevent the spread. N95 masks are the most effective. Social distancing helps prevent the spread. Washing hands regularly helps. These are the things that we know.

So it all comes down to people believing that they can protect against the spread by being more careful and doing what they can.

Doctors in Houston are overworked and exhausted. They are saying that the public can make a difference in the spread of the virus.

If people choose to ignore what the doctors are saying, then that is intentional. Because the public has been informed.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13443 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:31 am to
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Cloth face coverings are recommended as a simple barrier to help prevent respiratory droplets from traveling into the air and onto other people when the person wearing the cloth face covering coughs, sneezes, talks, or raises their voice. This is called source control. This recommendation is based on what we know about the role respiratory droplets play in the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19, paired with emerging evidence from clinical and laboratory studies that shows cloth face coverings reduce the spray of droplets when worn over the nose and mouth. COVID-19 spreads mainly among people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet), so the use of cloth face coverings is particularly important in settings where people are close to each other or where social distancing is difficult to maintain.


The Virons for Covid 19 are so small they go right through the facial coverings. They are actually so small N95 is also not effective.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
11880 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:36 am to
The orders from the federal level to defer to states’ rights seems to have worked for most states. Maybe the failure of leadership falls upon those making the decisions for their state.

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22624 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:39 am to
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Because people are morons? Why is this even a question that has anything to do with whether masks work?




Um maybe because it’s a simple fricking solution and the morons you speak of are the same people that are now telling us to wear them?

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Asia isn't just one place, you're talking about billions of people in dozens of countries. And since the pandemic became serious mask usage has gone way up, even in the places where it was the most common.


I’m aware of this. I’m pointing out that we didn’t seem to take their lead on this, despite it being such an easy solution.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22624 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:42 am to
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Because due to decades of piss poor leadership the richest country on earth did not have a stockpile like the poorer ones did.



And we are still being actively discouraged from wearing actual masks, and DIY cloth ones are being suggested.

Again, it’s just strange this thing has been going on for 4 months and all the sudden surges in cases are because we are not wearing masks.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
8432 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:06 am to
Tell him to put up a chain link fence to mosquitos out of his yard.
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