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re: Heather Heyer's mom lost a loved one at Sandy Hook too, according to 8chan.

Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:07 pm to
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I can't believe anyone but GoldenNugget and a few of the other exteme conspiracy lovers would think this. The number of people who would have to be involved, and/or have knowledge of this, makes the conspiracy ridiculous in and of itself. The town (~ 27,000 residents) and school district (~ 5,300 student) is small enough that everyone who is lives or works there would have to have knowledge of the conspiracy. But both are also large enough that a conspiracy of the magnitude would be impossible to coordinate, especially if the government is involved given its ineffectiveness everywhere else.


These frickheads deal strictly in innuendo, not facts. I expect resounding silence to your questions and mine.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:08 pm to
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It's tough being on this side of this argument because to even engage is this debate presupposes there is an iota of validity in the "it's all staged" argument.


I didn't say it was staged, I said one of the victims fathers was dressed as a SWAT...

start by disproving that...

I get it, you want to make everyone accept that it happens in America/the world...
And it does...but did it right there?
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:08 pm to
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Well, one of the Dads was also a sloppily dressed SWAT member, so there is that...
So they can coordinate this huge conspiracy, somehow get the town to keep quiet about it, and they can't even hire enough crisis actors so they can only play one role?
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I'm sorry you don't actually look at what they're showing you.
These are the best responses. Insulting people for not believing in a ridiculous conspiracy. It's one thing to believe it, but it's another thing to believe in it so confidently that you'll insult those who don't share the belief.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:10 pm to
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strictly in innuendo, not facts


I deal in the straight facts...

Not "it's impossible because"

That's hyperbole...not objective and is extremely biased
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:11 pm to
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e are the best responses. Insulting people for not believing in a ridiculous conspirac


I didn't insult him...

I don't want to look at horrific events either, stop jumping to emotional conclusions
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:11 pm to
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I didn't say it was staged, I said one of the victims fathers was dressed as a SWAT...

start by disproving that...
Why don't you start by proving it first.
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I get it, you want to make everyone accept that it happens in America/the world...
Maybe accept what happens in this reality.
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And it does...but did it right there?
What?
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:12 pm to
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These frickheads deal strictly in innuendo, not facts. I expect resounding silence to your questions and mine.



Also these conspiracies especially ones that involve many crisis actors, would have to be on so large a scale that it would be impossible to keep quiet. It is funny how literally EVERY event is now a conspiracy. I want to see a list of what conspiracy theorist don't believe was a conspiracy.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:12 pm to
Im glad this site is getting WOKEASfrick
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:13 pm to
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I didn't insult him
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I'm sorry you don't actually look at what they're showing you.
Accusing a person of willful ignorance and denial, of a conspiracy, seems pretty close to an insult.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:15 pm to
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Also these conspiracies especially ones that involve many crisis actors, would have to be on so large a scale that it would be impossible to keep quiet.
And usually orchestrated by the government. Somehow the government can hardly do a thing right, even easy things, but it's conveniently capable of pulling off the near impossible.

But only some random people on the internet, who incidentally love conspiracies, are able to see the truth.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:16 pm to
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I didn't say it was staged, I said one of the victims fathers was dressed as a SWAT...

start by disproving that...


I don't know what you're talking about and I don't care enough to go research it.

But for the sake of this discussion, let's say I concede the dad was dressed as SWAT and that it looked funny or hasty or whatever.

What probative value does that then provide regarding the truth of what happened at Sandy Hook?
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:17 pm to
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Accusing a person of willful ignorance and denial, of a conspiracy, seems pretty close to an insult


I didn't say that either...are you like this in daily life, this emotional, argumentative and aggravated all the time?

He's not in denial, he, like 90%, do not want to look into horrific events, I get it...that's the deepest my presumption goes...no more, no less


Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:17 pm to
Not to mention they're dumb enough to use the exact same actors for multiple events
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Not to mention they're dumb enough to use the exact same actors for multiple events


My favorite is the brother of a victim that spoke after Orlando
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:18 pm to
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lol, you watch CNN


You watch CNN non stop too, you binge watch it and bring your daily dramatic bitching about stupid shite here all the time for approval from people who would have agreed with anything you spouted.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:19 pm to
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And usually orchestrated by the government. Somehow the government can hardly do a thing right, even easy things, but it's conveniently capable of pulling off the near impossible.




I do enjoy the fact you use logical fallacies, in this case a strawman, to make your arguments.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:20 pm to
You used to be a somewhat respectable poster.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:22 pm to
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What probative value does that then provide regarding the truth of what happened at Sandy Hook?


That Dad was not claimed to be a SWAT...and if you knew your kids were in that school, and you were a SWAT member...nothing on earth would stop me from going in...
There are videos of him marching to and fro, not knowing how to wear a helmet...

Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:23 pm to
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I do enjoy the fact you use logical fallacies, in this case a strawman, to make your arguments


It's a knee-jerk emotional issue
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:25 pm to
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I deal in the straight facts...
Well then prive they're facts. Maybe start with the SWAT team father.
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Not "it's impossible because"

That's hyperbole...not objective and is extremely biased
Would "near impossible" be better? 1E1,000,000,000 is not impossible, but it's splitting hairs.
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