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re: Health Insurance is out of control!!!
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:23 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:23 pm to GumboPot
Make it illegal for health care companies to donate to politics.
It would save billions.
It won’t happen.
Every politician gets money from them on both sides and not only love the money. They brag about it.
It would save billions.
It won’t happen.
Every politician gets money from them on both sides and not only love the money. They brag about it.
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 1:25 pm
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:26 pm to BuckI
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If the system in place back then had worked, the Affordable Care Act would have never happened.
That assumes that government only acts when it is needed, which is obviously false. It also assumes that they were actually trying to "fix" something with the ACA, which is also false IMO. They were trying to redistribute wealth, which they did.
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As long as people keep voting for the same parties, expecting different results, then we will never have good healthcare.
Which party should everyone start voting for?
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:27 pm to GumboPot
Spoken like someone without even one clue as to how it works.
I’d like to see her just stfu, her takes since the elon bromance fallout have been horrendous.
Did she forget congress makes laws? Did she forget congress has subpoena power, and can take those same people to task on live television? To insinuate potus shouldnt be talking to foreign leaders, and instead playing pretend for tv, has to be the lowest iq take i’ve seen from anyone in gop for a while now.
I’d like to see her just stfu, her takes since the elon bromance fallout have been horrendous.
Did she forget congress makes laws? Did she forget congress has subpoena power, and can take those same people to task on live television? To insinuate potus shouldnt be talking to foreign leaders, and instead playing pretend for tv, has to be the lowest iq take i’ve seen from anyone in gop for a while now.
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:31 pm to LSUA 75
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They spend significantly more on all that than they do on R&D.
How do you know that if you don't know how much they spend on advertising?
Even if that's true, it's a category error. Apples and oranges. The relevant question is how much they spend relative to other industries on R&D. And the answer is:
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Pharmaceutical and biopharmaceutical industries have the highest R&D intensity among all industries, spending a significantly larger percentage of their revenue on R&D compared to other sectors
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:37 pm to BuckI
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But “health care is a right, not a privilege."
And that is the philosophical underpinning of that entire article.
And it's an obviously absurd one.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 2:29 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:I'm confident that America can do it.
And that is the philosophical underpinning of that entire article.
And it's an obviously absurd one.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 2:38 pm to DavidTheGnome
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It’s insane what we pay and not even have the outcomes that countries that pay far less do.
Such nonsense. Very fair to complain about US cost of healthcare. Totally different to act like we have poor outcomes.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 2:42 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:The private companies redistribute wealth by taking from us and giving to themselves.
That assumes that government only acts when it is needed, which is obviously false. It also assumes that they were actually trying to "fix" something with the ACA, which is also false IMO. They were trying to redistribute wealth, which they did.
quote:I see no difference between the two old parties.
Which party should everyone start voting for?
Posted on 10/1/25 at 4:19 pm to GumboPot
16 years ago before I was married I was paying around $250 a month for the basic insurance plan. Now the base plan cost around $375. The company would pay you $200 a month to opt out of the company’s healthcare plan.
A business with over 50 employees pays at least half of your premium, so the $375 actually cost $750. For a family of 4 out of pocket is $1,500 and the company pays $1,500 for a total of $3,000. Companies can deduct the premiums they pay for an employee as a business expense, reducing their overall taxable income. Self employed businesses can deduct up to 100% of their premiums.
In the last 20 years the biggest change for a basic insurance plan isn’t the price it’s what is covered. I’m older and have kids, so I would rather pay around $500 a piece for everyone in the house to be covered. My daughter had surgery when she was 4 and instead of costing us $80,000 to $100,000 out of pocket with basic Bronze plan we owed less than $9,000 with the Platinum plan.
A business with over 50 employees pays at least half of your premium, so the $375 actually cost $750. For a family of 4 out of pocket is $1,500 and the company pays $1,500 for a total of $3,000. Companies can deduct the premiums they pay for an employee as a business expense, reducing their overall taxable income. Self employed businesses can deduct up to 100% of their premiums.
In the last 20 years the biggest change for a basic insurance plan isn’t the price it’s what is covered. I’m older and have kids, so I would rather pay around $500 a piece for everyone in the house to be covered. My daughter had surgery when she was 4 and instead of costing us $80,000 to $100,000 out of pocket with basic Bronze plan we owed less than $9,000 with the Platinum plan.
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 10/2/25 at 4:35 pm to BuckI
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I'm confident that America can do it.
Your sentence is a non-sequitur.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 4:38 pm to BuckI
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The private companies redistribute wealth by taking from us and giving to themselves.
Which private company on the planet has the ability to take money from you that you don't voluntarily give them?
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I see no difference between the two old parties.
Yeah, that was said already. And my response to that was to ask which party everyone should start voting for instead of those two.
P.S. If you really don't see ANY difference between the two parties you are a populist moron.
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